I know a lot of people blame them, including the press, for contributing to the housing crisis. That’s probably part of it.
Especially when it was the feds and provinces who caused the foreign investment problem in the first place, ie: nobody wanted to stop the money flowing into Canada (starting in the early 90’s) even tho it was being done to launder funds through BC casinos and property purchases.
Shouldn’t they blame all landlords and the tools use to protect their wealth at the cost of creating homelessness?
It’s really unfortunate that the general public is so bad at nuance. I’m sure there’s an uptick in people who can’t distinguish between criticism of the ccp and of Chinese/Asian people in general. Mixed with influence of shitty American politics, it turns into more racist actions as described. I am slightly curious about the control stats on the increased reporting of violent actions such as coughing and spitting though. I feel like the general service industry has seen an uptick in that behaviour since covid started. Really hard not to lose faith in humanity while working in the service industry.
The issue of wealthy foreign investors buying up housing is specifically an issue of the wealthy investors, not all Chinese people. Again I don’t expect the less nuanced public to know how to keep issues separate.
There are obvious real issues which inspire the friction that is happening. I.E. Nothing being done by the Canadian government about the foreign investors, and shit like the ccp authoritarian police that are able to spread ccp influence in Canada. They also do not mind using unethical means to spread or enhance their influence, which makes it harder for any ccp critical rhetoric to influence Chinese populations inside and outside of Canada. Mixed with any violent racism from other Canadians, I only see more divisiveness and difficulty finding cooperation.
I think the latter issue needs more help from the Chinese Canadians, although anything criticizing the ccp is often labeled as criticizing the Chinese people. Again, by every group. The extreme defensiveness of many Chinese Canadians towards the unethical authoritarian regime is likely making this entire issue much more difficult to solve. and again I think that particular issue needs more influence from the Canadian government on the general public distinguishing Chinese Canadians from the ccp. The Chinese Canadians should be just as rallied against the authoritarian regime influencing our country. The more other Canadians see Chinese Canadians criticizing the ccp, I think the more the concepts can be separated by the less nuanced individuals. Hopefully this attitude would also make its way to the idiots who do the hate crimes, and racial divisiveness could be lowered. Is there anything more the Canadian government can do to discourage ccp police authoritative power in Canada? Or to encourage Chinese Canadians in anonymously weeding them out while giving a platform to Chinese Canadians who are against ccp authoritarian influence?
Again, I believe encouraging the Canadian mindsets of communication, patience, and cohesiveness are the only ways to improve things. Recognize, denounce, and discourage the bad actors on every side.
I expect exactly none of this to happen. Ccp gonna ccp. Shitty people gonna shitty people. People are going to continue being divisive and segregationalist instead of growing together. I’ll just sit here and continue being sad as it all happens.
The Chinese Canadians should be just as rallied against the authoritarian regime influencing our country. The more other Canadians see Chinese Canadians criticizing the ccp, I think the more the concepts can be separated by the less nuanced individuals.
The sad reality is many still have family there and they justifiably fear reprisal.
The news needs a new scapegoat. The CCP hasn’t gotten any worse than in the past, in fact on many fronts it’s gotten better and less corrupt. Unfortunately, China is no longer a small developing economy that we can export labour to but a large one that competes with Western economies for key emerging markets like EVs and renewable energy.
Are you seriously suggesting that the victims of the aggression need to mollify the perpetrators by loudly shouting how they’re a) not in China, and thus b) not in the CPC? Fucking HELL that’s next-level white privilege in action! What’s next? “She should probably have worn longer skirts”? “Maybe if she wasn’t out so late at night…”?
The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. When they can’t come to grips with that. They will never even see them as individuals. It goes no further than a monolith of which there are some who happen to be living in Canada but never Canadian. Gotta walk around making public displays of appeasement so peanut over there won’t be shaking his is boot because they’re all CCP agents until proven otherwise.
you did a great job at ignoring everything i said and then misrepresenting me.
"The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. "
this is directly antithetical to my beliefs and actions. although that won’t stop you from saying it.
and at no point did i even mildly suggest that chinese canadians have to prove they aren’t CCP agents, or insinuate that they are any less canadian than i am.
however i did suggest that a more open dialogue on the subject could help to dissuade that from being a popular mindset for people incapable of understanding nuanced situations.
can’t have a single conversation without this strawman bullshit.
from my understanding, there is enough reason to believe in and want to deal with CCP instating their authority in canada to affect canadians. i did also suggest that there might be difficulty in dealing with it openly due to pressure from an unethical authoritarian regime.
if your argument is that there is no CCP influence problem, that’s another conversation, and i’m always available for new information. if your argument is that we shouldn’t care even if there is CCP influence, then i disagree with you.
again, i am not and never would be defending the assholes or behavior stated in op’s article. if you could just say “no, stop, that’s bad.” and have the issue be fixed, this would be a lot more simple. that apparently won’t stop you from ignoring that nuance exists.
i have never said anything negative about “chinese canadians” because that is a diverse and populous group of every kind of individual and mindset. just like any other large group of canadians that fit any other group label. that being said, i have a in intense loathing of the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. i say the same shit about russia. i also don’t agree with labelling all russians as evil, just because of the shitty situation caused by the authoritarian regime in charge.
i am just doing my best to understand and react to a complicated and nuanced situation that affects many people, as well as the stability of our political structure. if you disagree with any of my points, make a note on that point. don’t ignore my intentionally phrased statements so that you can put words in my mouth and strawman my intentions into something else.
you are helping nobody and doing nothing to improve the situation.
maybe stop being an asshole and actually take part in a conversation.
Thanks for ignoring all nuance and intent, and taking a complicated issue with many different large groups of human beings, and boiling it down to one simple divisive segregational perspective that allows no nuanced understanding or solution.
There’s more than one issue at play here. I’m not, and would never be defending the racist asshole’s in their actions. Unfortunately it’s a reality that many human-beings suck. I’m trying to address the issues that have been exacerbating this activity.
Rather, I had no assumption that the racism was coming exclusively from white people in the first place, so I’m finding your emphasis weird.
Keep in mind the issue is of different informational, cultural, and political manifolds interacting. My statement wasn’t to “blame”. Chinese Canadians, but to encourage a system that both deals with the very real trouble with the CCP, and encouraging an open dialogue that emphasises the separation of the real issue from race. This is to solve underlying problems, and to remove the excuses and ignorance of the bad actors.
This dialogue is currently discouraged due to a pro CCP ideology that’s so strong that the CCP are able to police communities within our country. This is why my emphasis, and call for better government solutions to allow anonymous defense for Chinese Canadians against CCP police, and encourage removal of the CCP from our country, regardless of how many actually support the CCP.
Especially if things are happening like the CCP threatening or holding family members that are still in China. If this issue isn’t addressed, I don’t see it improving.
I also emphasized that the foreign investor problem is one of government regulation, so no victim blaming there either.
Do you have a better solution to the actual problem? Or are you just going to ignore all of that and continue trying to instigate a race war?
My wife is Chinese so I lean more in the direction of hating Chinese people 😂 Just kidding I love her to bits.
I get it though… while I was living in China there were so many things I enjoyed about it that I didn’t often complain. But being back in Europe, the aggravation grows.
You can say hating the people for what their government does is stupid, but when the people stand so resolutely by their government the hatred goes in the same direction. Unless you’ve lived there, you won’t understand the long process of indoctrination so you won’t have sympathy for their unthinking obedience.
Canadians of Chinese descent aren’t “their” people. They are our people.
Sure, if they’re second generation it’s a different story
No, it isn’t. If they’ve got the citizenship, they are our people.
If you tell me the Pledge of Allegience that US kids say in school everyday is indoctrination, my gut reaction is “no, its normal and harmless” … so yeah, I appreciate your sentiment, but Americans can have sympathy for chinese obedience. If we choose to see it.
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Where are our secret police when we need them?
