Are you seriously suggesting that the victims of the aggression need to mollify the perpetrators by loudly shouting how they’re a) not in China, and thus b) not in the CPC? Fucking HELL that’s next-level white privilege in action! What’s next? “She should probably have worn longer skirts”? “Maybe if she wasn’t out so late at night…”?
The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. When they can’t come to grips with that. They will never even see them as individuals. It goes no further than a monolith of which there are some who happen to be living in Canada but never Canadian. Gotta walk around making public displays of appeasement so peanut over there won’t be shaking his is boot because they’re all CCP agents until proven otherwise.
you did a great job at ignoring everything i said and then misrepresenting me.
"The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. "
this is directly antithetical to my beliefs and actions. although that won’t stop you from saying it.
and at no point did i even mildly suggest that chinese canadians have to prove they aren’t CCP agents, or insinuate that they are any less canadian than i am.
however i did suggest that a more open dialogue on the subject could help to dissuade that from being a popular mindset for people incapable of understanding nuanced situations.
can’t have a single conversation without this strawman bullshit.
from my understanding, there is enough reason to believe in and want to deal with CCP instating their authority in canada to affect canadians. i did also suggest that there might be difficulty in dealing with it openly due to pressure from an unethical authoritarian regime.
if your argument is that there is no CCP influence problem, that’s another conversation, and i’m always available for new information.
if your argument is that we shouldn’t care even if there is CCP influence, then i disagree with you.
again, i am not and never would be defending the assholes or behavior stated in op’s article. if you could just say “no, stop, that’s bad.” and have the issue be fixed, this would be a lot more simple. that apparently won’t stop you from ignoring that nuance exists.
i have never said anything negative about “chinese canadians” because that is a diverse and populous group of every kind of individual and mindset. just like any other large group of canadians that fit any other group label. that being said, i have a in intense loathing of the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. i say the same shit about russia. i also don’t agree with labelling all russians as evil, just because of the shitty situation caused by the authoritarian regime in charge.
i am just doing my best to understand and react to a complicated and nuanced situation that affects many people, as well as the stability of our political structure. if you disagree with any of my points, make a note on that point. don’t ignore my intentionally phrased statements so that you can put words in my mouth and strawman my intentions into something else.
you are helping nobody and doing nothing to improve the situation.
maybe stop being an asshole and actually take part in a conversation.
Thanks for ignoring all nuance and intent, and taking a complicated issue with many different large groups of human beings, and boiling it down to one simple divisive segregational perspective that allows no nuanced understanding or solution.
There’s more than one issue at play here. I’m not, and would never be defending the racist asshole’s in their actions. Unfortunately it’s a reality that many human-beings suck. I’m trying to address the issues that have been exacerbating this activity.
Rather, I had no assumption that the racism was coming exclusively from white people in the first place, so I’m finding your emphasis weird.
Keep in mind the issue is of different informational, cultural, and political manifolds interacting. My statement wasn’t to “blame”. Chinese Canadians, but to encourage a system that both deals with the very real trouble with the CCP, and encouraging an open dialogue that emphasises the separation of the real issue from race. This is to solve underlying problems, and to remove the excuses and ignorance of the bad actors.
This dialogue is currently discouraged due to a pro CCP ideology that’s so strong that the CCP are able to police communities within our country. This is why my emphasis, and call for better government solutions to allow anonymous defense for Chinese Canadians against CCP police, and encourage removal of the CCP from our country, regardless of how many actually support the CCP.
Especially if things are happening like the CCP threatening or holding family members that are still in China. If this issue isn’t addressed, I don’t see it improving.
I also emphasized that the foreign investor problem is one of government regulation, so no victim blaming there either.
Do you have a better solution to the actual problem? Or are you just going to ignore all of that and continue trying to instigate a race war?
Are you seriously suggesting that the victims of the aggression need to mollify the perpetrators by loudly shouting how they’re a) not in China, and thus b) not in the CPC? Fucking HELL that’s next-level white privilege in action! What’s next? “She should probably have worn longer skirts”? “Maybe if she wasn’t out so late at night…”?
The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. When they can’t come to grips with that. They will never even see them as individuals. It goes no further than a monolith of which there are some who happen to be living in Canada but never Canadian. Gotta walk around making public displays of appeasement so peanut over there won’t be shaking his is boot because they’re all CCP agents until proven otherwise.
you did a great job at ignoring everything i said and then misrepresenting me.
"The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. "
this is directly antithetical to my beliefs and actions. although that won’t stop you from saying it.
and at no point did i even mildly suggest that chinese canadians have to prove they aren’t CCP agents, or insinuate that they are any less canadian than i am.
however i did suggest that a more open dialogue on the subject could help to dissuade that from being a popular mindset for people incapable of understanding nuanced situations.
can’t have a single conversation without this strawman bullshit.
from my understanding, there is enough reason to believe in and want to deal with CCP instating their authority in canada to affect canadians. i did also suggest that there might be difficulty in dealing with it openly due to pressure from an unethical authoritarian regime.
if your argument is that there is no CCP influence problem, that’s another conversation, and i’m always available for new information. if your argument is that we shouldn’t care even if there is CCP influence, then i disagree with you.
again, i am not and never would be defending the assholes or behavior stated in op’s article. if you could just say “no, stop, that’s bad.” and have the issue be fixed, this would be a lot more simple. that apparently won’t stop you from ignoring that nuance exists.
i have never said anything negative about “chinese canadians” because that is a diverse and populous group of every kind of individual and mindset. just like any other large group of canadians that fit any other group label. that being said, i have a in intense loathing of the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. i say the same shit about russia. i also don’t agree with labelling all russians as evil, just because of the shitty situation caused by the authoritarian regime in charge.
i am just doing my best to understand and react to a complicated and nuanced situation that affects many people, as well as the stability of our political structure. if you disagree with any of my points, make a note on that point. don’t ignore my intentionally phrased statements so that you can put words in my mouth and strawman my intentions into something else.
you are helping nobody and doing nothing to improve the situation.
maybe stop being an asshole and actually take part in a conversation.
Thanks for ignoring all nuance and intent, and taking a complicated issue with many different large groups of human beings, and boiling it down to one simple divisive segregational perspective that allows no nuanced understanding or solution.
There’s more than one issue at play here. I’m not, and would never be defending the racist asshole’s in their actions. Unfortunately it’s a reality that many human-beings suck. I’m trying to address the issues that have been exacerbating this activity.
Rather, I had no assumption that the racism was coming exclusively from white people in the first place, so I’m finding your emphasis weird.
Keep in mind the issue is of different informational, cultural, and political manifolds interacting. My statement wasn’t to “blame”. Chinese Canadians, but to encourage a system that both deals with the very real trouble with the CCP, and encouraging an open dialogue that emphasises the separation of the real issue from race. This is to solve underlying problems, and to remove the excuses and ignorance of the bad actors.
This dialogue is currently discouraged due to a pro CCP ideology that’s so strong that the CCP are able to police communities within our country. This is why my emphasis, and call for better government solutions to allow anonymous defense for Chinese Canadians against CCP police, and encourage removal of the CCP from our country, regardless of how many actually support the CCP.
Especially if things are happening like the CCP threatening or holding family members that are still in China. If this issue isn’t addressed, I don’t see it improving.
I also emphasized that the foreign investor problem is one of government regulation, so no victim blaming there either.
Do you have a better solution to the actual problem? Or are you just going to ignore all of that and continue trying to instigate a race war?