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      Where’s the part where it helps Trump? We supposedly live in a democracy, I’m voicing my opinion.

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        Where’s the part where it helps Trump?

        The part where the reality is we have a plurality voting system (“First past the post”) in place today.

        We supposedly live in a democracy,

        We do.

        I’m voicing my opinion.

        You are.

        I’m not saying the rule of law should prevent you from doing what you’re doing (I’m not a fan of fascism). However, you’re being willfully ignorant if you acknowledge our plurality voting system, but claim your work convincing people not to vote for Biden doesn’t also helps Trump become president again.

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          Vote for whoever you want. Biden, Trump, third party, write in, don’t vote, your choice. Democracy at work.

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            You asked how you’re helping Trump. I answered. Once again you ignore the reality of the plurality voting system and refuse to acknowledge the consequences of your actions in helping Trump become president.

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              I guess every NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, news orgs that dare criticize Biden are all “helping Trump” too then, right?

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                Sorry, I’m not taking your distraction bait.

                If you are so strong in your convictions, so honest in your statements, and so solid in your belief of what you’re doing is right, why is it so difficult for you to admit the reality of what you’re doing? Even if I don’t agree with what you’re doing and why, I don’t see why you dance so hard around the fact that plurality voting, with your actions to convince people not to vote for Biden, are helping Trump?

                Why is that so hard for you to admit?

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                  “oh no! Biden lost the whole election because of a meme on something called Lemmy!” Really?

                  If you base your vote or non-vote off of memes on a social media site…

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                    Again, you dance away and refuse to admit. I will say this is helpful though. Any post in the future only needs to be pointed to this flow of conversation and see where you stand. Every refusal you remove any ambiguity of miscommunication. Your willful ignorance is on full display. Thank you.

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                In a way, yes. The mainstream media has consistently failed the electorate for years and years. They don’t get a pass.

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                  It sounds like you want to get rid of journalists unless they make the candidate you want look good. Slippery slope.

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            I don’t get it, what you detail is democracy, and these people are being hideous about it, if someone wants to vote third party then that’s they’re democratic right and to nag and ostracise someone for they’re democratic right is manipulative.

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              if someone wants to vote third party then that’s they’re democratic right and to nag and ostracise someone for they’re democratic right is manipulative.

              Oh, right, only the people you agree with have the right to freedom of speech.

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                No I am glad to look through the comments and see everyone use they’re freedom in a dignified and informative way, when freedom of speech turns to calling someone a slur *(used as a slur perhaps) like fascist or form a fictitious narrative meant to repress and shame is when I take issue.

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              It’s nothing new. They scream and voter shame every election year. Been dealing with this for awhile now.