To fascists, hypocrisy is a virtue:
https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/hypocrisy-and-fascism-2018-08-12
They NEED to demonstrate their hypocrisy in order to signal to their supporters that the nasty shit they promise to do to The Other (immigrants, gays, whatever) won’t be done to their supporters.
And it’s a way to show how powerful you are. Breaking the law with impunity while others get punished for less shows that you shouldn’t mess with the leader.
Bingo
Never thought about it this way - appreciate the share
Utterly devious!
Aren’t all threesomes bisexual or homosexual? By definition? What does that word mean here?
No, not inherently. If the two same sex people dont engage in any sexual contact directly, its just a heteosexual threesome.
Bisexual threesome is when everyone is having sex with everyone else.
But I mean, for one person it’s not bisexual. Isn’t that just bisexual sex with a plus one?
Would you consider and Eiffle Tower during a spit roast a bisexual act?
If the dudes high five it’s like 1% gay
Doing forget socks on and saying no homo makes it 100% closeted gay.
I’m straight and have done a fuckton of those
Isn’t that just bisexual sex with a plus one?
Only if the bisexuals same sex partner is the their primary partner, and not the plus one.
If not, I would call it a threesome, or to be more specific, a bisexual threesome.
Are you going by “it’s not gay if it’s a three way” rules?
Either all people are of one gender, in which case it’s homosexual. Or there’s some combination of genders. So for someone in a MFF or FFM threesome, there is an element of bisexuality no matter what way you look at it.
Straight guy in an open marriage here. Have never engaged in sex with another man, have had plenty of mfm threesomes. Two men fucking the same woman at the same time are not fucking each other.
The transitive property does not apply to intercourse.
The transitive property does not apply to intercourse.
Tell me you are not an incubus without telling me.
there is an element of bisexuality no matter what way you look at it.
Element of multi-gender participation, but if say two guys are both wishing the other guy wasn’t there, they never look at each other or come into contact… it’s not very bisexual, no?
Wonder how much has been written about this…
I’m not going to assume your experiences, but I’m a mostly straight guy who’s had both FFM and MMF threesomes while I experimented with polyamory.
I vastly preferred the FFM stuff, because boobies, but I did learn that I can find effeminate men attractive, if I couldn’t it would have never worked. If you’re really a person who can’t interact with someone of the same sex, then I really don’t think a threesome is viable.
I’ve had threesomes end where the other dude just really wasn’t into it, and we all decided to call it off. If everyone isn’t having fun, then no one is.
So for someone in a MFF or FFM threesome, there is an element of bisexuality no matter what way you look at it.
What if you keep your eyes closed the whole time though?
Im just getting specific in a reply to the commentor above.
A bisexual + “plus one” implies that the plus one is not the regular partner, and that if the “plus one” is not bisexual, i.e in this context engaging in sex with the same gender, then that implies the original couple is instead.
So a threesomes is not a “bisexual, plus one” unless the couple is in a same sex relationship, i.e 2 men or 2 women who invite a 3rd of the opposite sex to bed.
A threesome with an otherwise hetro couple who invites a 3rd of either gender to all have sex with is a bisexual threesome, but not a “bisexual, plus 1” situation. The same threesome where everyone engaged in only hetrosexual contact would just be a hetrosexual threesome.
😂 😂 😂
The convoluted techincal logicistics of why it’s not gay and precisely when it does become so is silly. The answer is that yes, doing sexual acts with someone of the same sex/gender meets the common definition of being gay. But gay and straight are just words used to self identify. Humans are way dynamic than trying to cling to these arbitrary labels. Having a threesome has zero impact on you telling a potential partner that you are gay/straight because you’re interested in them.
Labels are important and helpful, but we gotta remember they are just words that can’t define the sum of a human not accurately catch the essential essence of any single person. So it’s healthy to recognize their limitations, trying to precisely define what is and isn’t gay just feels like cope so you can keep calling yourself straight. Just do it, this doesn’t matter.
The real point here the people discussing this seem to be missing is that it doesn’t matter what any of us consider to be gay. The members of Moms for Liberty would definitely not call this “normal” in terms of sexuality and would be against it if it were any other three people.
Im not concerned about “gay or not.” I personally think you have to physically interact with someone to have sex with them, but honestly dont care if someone considers all threesomes gay. “Be gay, do threesomes” would be a fine credo for the world.
Im just making a pedantic comment in reply to a pedantic comment.
You’re missing the point. That specific threesome can’t be 100% heterosexual. By definition.
No offense to anyone’s preference, assignment, or kinks… but yes. You have to at least be a little bit gay to bang someone with another of your same gender.
You forgot about the golden rule… it’s not gay if it’s in a three way
Maybe, but pointing out that it isn’t heterosexual makes it look worse for those hypocritical puritanical fucks, so I’m fine with it.
Yeah the pigeonhole principle here would seem to dictate that, or some principle involving holes anyways.
I think they meant in the context of the founder
I think it means bisexual for her… As in FFM
Her robust and consensual sex life is perhaps the only thing I don’t find despicable about her.
Edit: yes, y’all, the hypocrisy and allegations of non-consensual sex and the book burning and the attempt to takeover the k-12 system with Christian nationalism, etc, etc, etc is the stuff I do find despicable. Sheesh.
BISEXUAL THREESOMES are NOT against the Bible! Only Gay People are!
The original translation of “men are prohibited to lay down with man” is more akin to “men are prohibited from laying down with boys”
So the only real verse in the Bible that mentions homosexuality is actually telling people to not be pedos
angry Catholic priest noises
No.
First off there are two passages in the O.T. that directly prescribe the death penalty for male homosexuality, not one like you said.
Second neither one of which contain the Hebrew word for “boy”. Both use the words to describe a man.
Third even if they somehow meant to write boy but didn’t in context it would still work out to mean man.
Fourth the rest of the bible is completely consistent on this which is almost shocking given that it is consistent on so little. From Leviticus all the way to Paul, we got about a thousand years of different writers all saying the same thing on this one issue.
Fifth even texts that didn’t make it it in the Bible (at least directly) like Enoth still go after it.
Sixth the oldest commentaries all agree what the rules were about this.
The abhramic faiths are on the text level homophobic. No amount of apologetics, or crappy translations, or recontextual work will change what they contain. When people or religions tell you what they are about believe them. And stop following these shit tier religions.
Not really sure about that
What is your source for this? Sounds like something my religious grandma drops to justify all of the bad in that book.
I am betting the are misremembering a thing that was making the rounds claiming that Paul meant in one of his letters Romans chapter 1.
It isn’t correct because
A. He had a perfectly good Greek word for being a pedo and didn’t use it
B. The passage is clear that it was consensual act he was condemning
C. Who cares? We have two other letters (one granted is a forgery) where it is condemned
Why can’t people just accept that these people were homophobic? They were. If you are from an Abrahamic faith your skydaddy is a homophobic piece of shit and so we’re the people who claim to speak for him. Stop praying to it.
Technically the meaning behind the word sodomy was never recorded consistently through the ages so you can basically say it’s whatever you want and therefor the bible is against it. For example, maybe Felatio is Sodomy. Maybe non-metaphorically eating corndogs is Sodomy. Or both or neither.
The only thing we can say for sure is that daughters getting their father drunk and raping him to get pregnant probably didn’t happen in Sodom. It happened directly after by the only “good” people allowed to survive.
That’s your reward for being good! You get to rape your dad and have his kid!
Ok but that word isn’t in the Bible.
It evolved from peccatum Sodomiticum which is latin for the Sin of Sodom.
Sure. The Bible was written in Greek and Hebrew with some loan words from Aramaic and like 9 words or so, not related to this, from Latin.
You’re now arguing that the bible in Hebrew doesn’t mention sinning taking place in Sodom?
No. I am pointing out the word Sodomy isn’t in there.
Then by your argument, the bible contains no English words because it was written in hebrew and therefore any quotes from the bible not made directly in hebrew are false. Sodomy is directly the same in meaning as the Sin of Sodom as it has evolved from exactly that phrase and has kept it’s meaning consistently.
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If only this would happen to Christianity.
Now Bridget, let’s be clear: you’re not being called out for being bi. That would be hypocritical. You’re being called out for being a hypocritical cunt yourself.
Now kindly fuck off :3
I’m reminded of Congressman Henry Hyde wrapping up the day’s House hearing on Presidental Blowjobs a bit early so he could run across town a boink his mistress.
How is it that these people are almost always involved in things that they publicly shame
People obsessed with power will do power-obsessed shit like this.
They get off on it
Makes it more exciting?
hmm quite possible, doubly wrapped in delicious taboo
It’s some kind of cosmic law.
All those anti gay asshats are as gay as everyone else.
Haggard’s Law
Imagine the alternative timeline when she isn’t a hypocrite and just has a tinder account to get some strange pussy?
But how did her husband get her to do that? For research purposes of course 🤔
Step 1. Be bisexual
Damn 😔
They do realize they’d be able to have a lot more gay sex if they’d stop criminalizing gay sex right?
Their kink is punishing people for doing the things they enjoy. Legalization makes it feel like they’re not above the poors - taking all the fun and adrenaline out of it.
Remember in Fallout New Vegas when the White Glove Society specifically wnats a meat shortage so eating beef can stay a “Luxury”?
Every.
Single.
Time.
Christian Ziegler’s iPhone in the investigation and found 30,000 videos on it.
Jesus. How does a phone even have that much storage? Cloud shit? Seriously though, God damn that’s a lot
short tik tok clips?
Moms for Liberty. That’s funny.
Anyone have a link to the actual police report? Asking for a friend.
A small part of me feels bad for Christian Ziegler. Guy is 41 years old with no career whatsoever outside of politics and now he can’t do that. Most politicians have law degrees but he doesn’t.
It’s a small part. He is at best a sex pest and piece of crap homophobic self serving shitstain. At worst he is all that and a rapist.
Maybe a much better person than I am can start some sorta program to help people who ruined their life with the alt-right rejoin society.
Don’t feel too bad; He’ll inevitably get a cushy job as a lobbyist, where he can leverage his existing connections to further influence politics while staying out of the spotlight. The politician>lobbyist pipeline is extremely apparent, and it’s basically a revolving door where politicians exit, throw on a “lobbyist” hat, and walk right back inside.
