• @TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee
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    68 months ago

    It’s simple… If you convince the communists that the capitalists are trying to destroy them, (and vice versa), they fight each other, distracting them from the real enemy: the 1% with enough money to directly influence the folk that make the rules that keep them in the 1% club. We’re fighting culture wars so we won’t fight class wars, my friend.

    • darq
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      08 months ago

      … capitalism is the ideology that lets the 1% be the 1%.

      This is like the one fight that isn’t part of the culture war.

      • @TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee
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        08 months ago

        The 1% exist in every form of government, my friend. Billionaire capitalists == Russian Oligarchs. The name changes based on the audience, but the idea is money influences politics. The folk with the most money to do so are the 1% who actually rule, not the interchangeable talking heads who take their money to live a comfortable life acting as the mouthpiece (or scapegoat) for that group.

        • @Cowbee@lemm.ee
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          18 months ago

          …do you think Russia is still Socialist? The Russian oligarchs are Billionaire Capitalists.

          The USSR collapsed in the 90s, buddy.

        • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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          -48 months ago

          What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back? It’s certainly not right wing.

          If you think the world is fucked because of the greed of the 1%, and you want those people to pay for their crimes through class war, you’re communist.

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              Lol no, I do not say. No ruling class. No government. That’s communism.

              It’s bonkers to me that you talk a big talk about class and class conflict, yet are opposed to left wing politics. Where do you think those terms come from?

              What’s even more bonkers is that you seem to think communism has never said anything about the 1%, when that is the biggest problem communists won’t shut up about!

                • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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                  08 months ago

                  I don’t think you know what projection is. The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted. Couldn’t be more off base.

                  • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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                    18 months ago

                    Man you communists need to figure out how to cope with the existence of written records

                    Here’s you:

                    The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted

                    Actually it said this:

                    Take their power back and give it to the ruling class government you say?

          • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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            28 months ago

            What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back?

            That sounds like a free market to me. When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

            When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market. The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

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              That sounds like a free market to me

              A free market means zero regulation, so I hope you like drinking poison because “ain’t no gubmint telling me how to bottle my soda!”

              When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

              This requires kicking capital out of the economy. That would be defeating capitalism.

              When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market

              No, it’s called voluntary participation. Free markets inevitably trend toward monopolies and concentrations of power, because the supply side is not held to any standard.

              The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

              And look where it’s gotten us - with a 1% bleeding the rest dry.

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      The 1% are the Capitalist and they are trying to defeat the Communists and surpress/continue to exploit the Prolitariat with every tool at their vast disposal. The folks in the comments defending Capitalism are all members of the Prolitariat brainwashed into thinking they are down on their luck Millionaires.

      • @TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee
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        58 months ago

        Look… It’s all tribalism, in the end. We can argue semantics, but doing so it’s exactly their point. It keeps us busy with pedantry, while they continue to enjoy their wealth from on high. I am not educated enough to debate the pros and cons of each group, but I am intelligent enough to smell an attempt to distract me from the point. To know there’s some sleight of hand fuckery happening right in front of my face.

        • GrayoxOP
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          Yes you are intelligent, and so close to getting it, the cultural warfare bullshit is all a distraction to keep you from noticing the class warfare being waged against the working class by the 1% who continues to rob value from us to horde weath far beyond our comprehension. I cant recommend Marx’s writings enough, there is so much slight of hand fuxkery going on and it SHOULD rightfully piss you off!

          • @TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee
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            68 months ago

            Help me understand how I’m close in what I’m saying, my friend. It feels like we’re saying exactly the same thing.

              • GrayoxOP
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                08 months ago

                Bruh if I HAD to be right I would still be a devoted Libertarian simping for the free market. I love being proven wrong, its how people and ergo society are supposed to evolve and grow.