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  • The article compares the years before WW2 to now. How England failed to properly judge the threat from Germany and didn’t get the army ready. As written in an essay by George Orwell. Compared to how we currently fail to realize the threat of climate change.

    I don’t know, it doesn’t make much sense to me. Of course there are parallels, like inaction now means bigger problems in future. But that’s pretty much it. I don’t like to compare the climate crisis to war.

    Nature isn’t fascist. Earth doesn’t arm up. Yes, disasters get stronger and more common. But this is no war. Nature isn’t expanding and invading neutral countries. We are not fighting and should not fight against our planet, instead we should learn how to live sustainable on it. The climate isn’t the aggressor, it’s simple reacting to our action. Nature doesn’t have ideals nor any agenda, it doesn’t have morality.

    And again a very common thing: humanity should not be semantically separated from nature! The two aren’t opposing parties or something, we humans are part of environment, while being dependant on the environment. We can’t save or help environment, when we say so, we merely mean that we don’t harm it.

    If we think nature is waging a war against us, we can only lose that war. We need to realize that we are a part of nature and that we harm nature and that we need to stop! We need to do the opposite than fighting, we need to stop destroying!



  • No, no, I’ve never said that. I am myself highly worried about many countries going further and further right.

    I just thought that maybe there is a either European or international law that prohibits hindering people that help dying people. I’m pretty sure that there used to be a naval code, that sailors must help sailors.

    I am not so crazy to think that it would have a high impact, but maybe Europe could threaten cutting financial aid or whatever.

    But I see your point. With many countries going racist and with even a European border militia (Frontex), it’s probably only in the interest of Europe to look away.



  • Do you have any numbers or studies to support your claim?

    I hear that all the time. I am a doomer and long for meaningful action, even if it makes my life harder.

    I don’t fly, hardly travel, live very simple without aircon or heating. Don’t eat much meat.

    I would love to travel. I enjoy driving, I have a thing for combustion engines. I most times sit out the heat and don’t even turn on the fan. I like the taste of beef, yet never buy it. I do this despite me believing that it doesn’t make much of a difference and it will certainly not save me.

    Some rich person will pollute all I save during my life within a few minutes.

    For real change, I believe, it must come from politics, not individuals. And forget about company’s responsibility, they clearly don’t care.

    I just don’t see this happening. That’s why I believe we won’t make it.

    Yet, this realization has only made me restricting myself harder. Before I believed so, I lead a much more polluting way of life. “'Cause someone will figure it out”

    I think like this: Knowing everyone must die one day, still in no way it justifies doing bad.



  • Dass die Welt vom Axel Springer Verlag nicht neutral berichtet ist mir nicht neu. Da sind schon einige Dinge daneben in diesem Artikel!

    Das Titel Bild ist natürlich auch top, da wird irgendein Nazi im Verlag gedacht haben, dass er besonders geschickt ist.

    Der Anfang ist auch witzig:

    Der erste ernstzunehmende Krieg des Jahrtausends wird weder durch Sanktionen noch mit Drohnen und Raketen entschieden.

    Und später wieder:

    Der erste ernstzunehmende Krieg des dritten Jahrtausends muss also am Boden ausgetragen werden

    Afghanistan, Irak, Bürgerkriege in Syrien und Jemen, Rohingya und etliche weitere Kriege sind oder waren wohl alle nicht ernst zu nehmen!

    Solche Angriffe auf städtische Ziele führen unweigerlich zu einem Medienecho von der Stärke eines Blitzkriegs.

    Da haben wir aber eine schöne Nazi Anlehnung gefunden.

    Bedauerlich war auch, dass die Ukrainer den Kampfwert der riesigen, 66 Tonnen schweren Leopard-Panzer, die sie von den Deutschen erbeten, ja erbettelt und schließlich praktisch eingefordert hatten, stark überschätzt hatten.

    Was soll dieser Satz? Zeigen, dass die Ukrainer unfähig sind? Dass Deutsche zu weich sind? Ich weiß es nicht, aber ich finde die Formulierung sehr seltsam.

    Es gibt also nur einen Weg nach vorn: den Krieg ernsthaft so zu führen, wie es sich für einen nationalen Befreiungskampf gehört.

    Mussten die Soldaten, die bisher ihr Leben an der Front ließen sterben, weil sie den Krieg nicht ernst genug genommen haben? Der Autor scheint überhaupt zu wissen, welche Dinge ernstzunehmend sind und welche nicht.

    Man, man, man! Immerhin hat man gleich einmal präventiv hinzugefügt, dass der Autor jüdische Eltern hat. Da kann also gar nichts Rechtes im Artikel sein!

    Was für ein dämlicher Artikel!


  • One of the biggest obstacles to avoiding global climate breakdown is that so many people think there’s nothing we can do about it. They point out that record-breaking heat waves, fires, and storms are already devastating communities and economies throughout the world. And they’ve long been told that temperatures will keep rising for decades to come, no matter how many solar panels replace oil derricks or how many meat-eaters go vegetarian. No wonder they think we’re doomed.

    I’m so tired of this bullshit. I am a doomer. I believe that our current society will collapse, rather sooner than later.

    Why? Because the consensus is “we can still avoid the worst if we all come together now and work together!”. You mean like we did during the global pandemic? The opposite is happening, we are widening our differences and move apart. We fight each other in stupid wars.

    I am a doomer. I live a simple life, choose not to fly for holidays, hardly ever drive and avoid things that I believe are bad for climate if I can. If governments would come together to tackle the issue of global warming, I would appreciate it. Even if I would get taxed harder. Or if my food gets rationed. Man, even if I would be called to voluntarily work on a solution. I am longing for action!

    I tell you what is one of the biggest obstacles to avoiding climate breakdown: It’s the companies, that sow doubt in science. It’s politicians that divide the people. It’s the climate deniers, who don’t want action.




  • Thank you! If you have specific questions, feel free to ask them. If I can’t answer, maybe somebody else can. I read a lot about these things, but I am no scientist or expert.

    If you want to take an advise: try to ask differently. Maybe it takes more than a single sentence, maybe admit like “I don’t understand XY, can someone explain…” or something alike.

    Your initial post and the second showed that you don’t know but at the same time sounded like you were having doubt in science or didn’t take it seriously. As there are plenty of people who doubt science but at the same time are not open to discussion, you might get down votes instead of answers.


  • Hey, I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not, but try to help in case you really seek answers to your questions:

    1880 was much cooler than today, globally about 1°C cooler. You’ll find plenty of graphs showing the history of global temperatures online and animated videos on YouTube.

    There have been times, where Earth has been hotter than today. We know quite a lot about Earth’s history, it’s astonishing. However, the big problem we are facing today isn’t the temperature itself, but the speed of the change happening. When climate changes naturally it takes thousands of years. This allows for many plants and animals to adapt and migrate, not all though. Some are always left behind in this circle of life.

    Today’s temperature change appears to be faster than anything we see in history, posing the worry that a lot of life forms will not be able to adapt in time. If I recall correctly, today’s atmosphere is changing about 200 times faster than it did during the most severe mass extinctions in history we know about and animals go extinct about 1000 times faster than they should in a world without humans.

    In today’s articles you often see “since 1880”. There is older temperature data, both from thermometers as also from other more abstract sources, as for example air bubbles trapped in ice cores give an atmosphere reading of a time long ago etc. However, older measurements are highly localized and don’t cover enough places of earth to get a reliable reading of global average temperatures.

    It is also possible, that we will see this “measuring starting point” 1880 go back to earlier decades in future, as there are still tons of records that aren’t evaluated yet. One example would be the detailed sailing ship logs of previous centuries that cover wide areas of Earth.



  • It’s basically a pathway, where the world temporarily exceeds the 1.5 degree goal and kind of hopes on massive carbon capture technology, so that by 2100 the temperatures would go back to or below 1.5 degrees.

    No, I’m on one page with you, I don’t see that happen. I assume soon we’ll stop talk about the 1.5 goal but talk about the 2 degree goal is still feasible if we would do this and that. Then we’ll talk about “temporarily” overshooting 2 degrees.

    Then I don’t know. Maybe we’ll have a 3 degree goal or maybe we’ll be just busy with staying alive.