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  • Good explanation.

    This has the interesting implication that the relative speed between the portals is “added” to whatever goes through it.

    Example: the blue portal is on a train running with the same speed in opposite direction. The people-bundle would instantaneously be accelerated to twice the speed of each of the trains. (This becomes a real headscratcher if you were able to put the portals in a particle accelerator)


  • Certainly, pretty much all of them dealt with the question of justifying authority. That doesn’t mean ofc that one should simply accepts the answers given.

    That is also why I brought those topics up, bc they are the difficult ones in both ideologies. (justification/corruption of power [Marxism] vs. industrial production/class divide [Anarchism])

    Also different Marxist authors reach different conclusions, but a general justification for transitional authority of one class is common ofc. A defense of revolutionary authority that is more approachable from a anarchist/libertarian standpoint is Rosa Luxemburgs “Reform or Revolution”, in which she also criticizes the lack of democracy in the USSR. Engels “On Authority” is often suggested, but I find it too short and not thorough enough. Antonio Gramsci is also often credited with a nuanced examination with authority


    I can attempt a simple sketch of what I think is a common argument (that doesn’t do actual reading any justice) to justify state authority:

    Marxists base their analysis on materialism. In their view what shapes the social order first and foremost are the material conditions of society, for the sake of the argument say the distribution of wealth (criminally oversimplified to the point its wrong). Individuals on opposing ends of the distribution have irreconcilable material interests (example: employer wants to pay low wages, employee wants high wages) but they share these interests with others in the same end of the distribution, those form classes.

    One class has more influence over society (the owning class) and they shape the ruling ideology justifying them (implicitly) as the ruling class. (An argument that material conditions more so than rational thought shape an ideology is that the philosophers of the so called “age of reason” deemed private ownership self-evident as well as racism as sexism). The state becomes the instrument of one class to rule the other.

    Since class interests are oppositional the ruling class will never voluntarily accept the oppressed class as equal (The narrative of “Class collaboration” is actually associated with fascism), therefore “class struggle” is inevitable.

    The only seen way out of this is a dissolution of contradictions that arise from a divide in material conditions, this necessitates both the development of the productive forces to a point where scarcity doesn’t necessarily begets class contradictions and the disenfranchisement (“proletarization”) of the bourgeoisie, in short a dissolution of classes per se. The vehicle to bring about these changes needs to facilitate a power inversion between the classes (i.e. for de-privatization). Since that doesn’t happen voluntarily revolutionary authority is necessary and the state is chosen as the instrument, which then acts as a tool of the proletariat to assert themselves over the burgeoisie, hence the term “dictatorship of the proletariat” (dotP). A succeeding socialist state brings the classes closer together until class contradictions dissolve and the material common interests align. At that point the ideals of anarchist and communist align as well.

    Re corruption I don’t know too much. I know Rosa Luxemburg has written about it too in her elaboration on the Russian revolution, I haven’t read it though. Ofc the Maoist “cultural revolution” was somewhat of a (failed) attempt to preemptively prevent corruption. Nowadays the communist party of China follows thought around “self-revolution” which is directed against corruption, but again: superficial knowledge.



  • I take it you disagree, that is your prerogative.

    For what its worth I didn’t see that I was in c/anarchism. Had I seen the question was asked from an anarchist view I wouldn’t have responded.

    I do believe what I wrote but I understand that it can come across as an insult here. And that was not my intention.

    but tankies are idiots

    I do think that is not a good take though, for one bc “tankie”, by now, is just a slur to prevent someone from being taken seriously and secondly bc I believe it is ignorant to disregard a Marxist analysis.

    As a Marxist has to answer to an anarchist critique of justification and potential corruption of a centralised power an Anarchist would do good to ponder on a materialist critique and socialization of production


  • Depends on who you ask. If you ask a Marxist they will probably tell you LibSoc has a similar goal as they have but will fall back into regular capitalism along the way.

    From a Marxist perspective LibSoc is Utopian Socialism (as opposed to Scientific Socialism) as it builds on ideals and doesn’t take into account an analysis of the material conditions and class struggle Marxists derive from it.

    More broadly ideals are seen by Marxists as a product of their time and its material conditions (historical materialism) and, since those material conditions brought forth the current burgeoisie, they are inherently biased towards it. (An example Engels gives is the self-evidence of private ownership in the philosophy of the so called “age of the enlightenment”, the prevalent racism and sexism in those philosophies would be other examples)

    In that context one could bring up that Anarchism (essentially a form of LibSoc) was used by the FBI in COINTELPRO to disrupt existing socialist movements, but in all fairness that was probably primarily done bc it was the best way to promote leftist infighting. Though I wager the FBI would never “support” ML in the same way to disrupt anarchism, so part of it must have been that anarchism is less threatening to existing power structures.

    I don’t intent to discredit LibSoc and anarchism I relate with their ideals and some implementations like mutual help. I do believe though that a Marxist critique and analysis is extremely valuable and should be studied by anachists and LibSocs alike.











  • psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.detoMemes@lemmy.mlWhich are you?
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    I understand getting tripped up when others chime in with varying intentions. Also my initial comment should have been clearer and did leave more room to read a pedophilia accusation into it than I intended.

    I can see that you argue in good faith and I apologize for some reddit impulses that I haven’t unlearned yet.

    Personally I don’t see the equation of leftism with defending CP in OPs post though.

    The way I read it OP groups “meat-eaters” into categories with each being a drastic exaggeration (the “lvl 5 bloodmouth” is a straight up cannibal) so I think none of this can be taken seriously.

    One “group” is the The “Leftist” meat eater. I expand the quotes to something like The pseudo-leftist meat eater who is then represented by Vaush. To me this is basically a 1 person group that might as well just be called “Vaush” but calling him The pseudo Leftist is just one more swing at him.

    I am definitely both a leftist and not a vegan and I don’t mind the post in fact I found it quite funny (but obviously very few ppl agree). I agree though that slapping the CP stuff under Vaushs pic is unfair to him, as some people will take it seriously, I have to say that humor was also not lost on me though


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    I just don’t trust people (like the person above) who […] casually go “I think they’re a pedophile”

    Oof, dude you make me feel bad for giving you a good faithed response after your first comment.

    For someone who urges to be careful with accusations you are pretty grossly misrepresenting my comment here

    non-ironically throw around terms like “radlib”

    I don’t throw it around like Vaush throws around “red-fascist”, “tankie”, “antisemite” and every other slur , I use it specifically for someone who draws upon radical aesthetic in the abstract but supports the capitalist, imperialist status-quo in the specific.

    You can chose to be offended by that, but Vaush is the definition of a radlib

    Honestly I have only ever used it for him. Thinking of it I might use “Vaushite” in the future which has the added benefit of visually representing the fact that his disingenious output is nothing but a thin layer around “shit”


  • I guess I should have made it more clear, that I was only trying to summarize sentiment about Vaush for you to understand the reference, I was not making anything up

    To be clear: I do not remember nor care what exactly Vaush argued for in that video people point to as I have no interest in wasting more time with Vaush. Personally I don’t believe he would defend pedophilia and just wants to be edgy.

    When I said “It is said” I meant it to be understood like “people say that about him” not that it were common knowledge. I apologize if my English was not on point.

    I think your accusation towards me making something up isn’t fair but I agree with your notion of being careful with the topic in general so I will edit my original comment to reflect that I can’t and won’t weigh in on the debate on whether he did or did not defend pedophilia.


  • Hence the double quotes I suspect.

    If you don’t know him, that person is a ytuber called Vaush - having only a couple of videos of him he strikes me as one of the most untruthful people on this planet.

    He is a radlib who tries to argue on the basis on marx’ and lenins work to “vote blue no matter who”. I’ve seen him claim Marx today would’ve been a Biden staffer for example. He also is unable to see the programmatic imperialism behind neoliberal concepts such as free trade agreements like NAFTA and defends these conceptually. He effectively hordes socialist leaning youths back into supporting the status quo so I wouldn’t wonder if one day it is revealed that the FBI secretly funds him

    I think he is said to have pleaded for the legalization of consensual sexual relationships with underaged children, hence the reference.

    Edit: No idea if he actually defended pedophilia. Personally I wouldn’t think that he meant it. I am not an expert on Vaush (luckily) I only mentioned the accusations bc it is what tripped up the commenter.


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    Ich glaube der idiomatische weg communities zu teilen ist dieser:

    !tja@feddit.de

    Ich habe gelesen es gäbe clients (das web interface evtl?!) die bei einem https link auf eine fremd-instanz den user nicht “mitnehmen”

    Edit: interessanterweise unterstüzt infinity diesen weg nicht, den https link aber schon. Jerboa kommt mit beiden klar