• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    I’m not a big AI guy but it’s really not quite like that, models do NOT contain all the data they were trained on.

    Edit: I have no idea what’s going on down below this comment

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        The guy above you is right though. So what are you on about?

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          what a weird opportunity for someone to burn a throwaway account. not even gonna dig into what you’ve imagined the other guy is right about, given he didn’t post any information of value

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            Lemmy is starting to have a huge problem with people creating multiple sockpuppets–probably programmatically generating them, in fact–just to win internet arguments. If this goes on too long you’re going to see a really surprising number of sudden downvotes on everything you’ve said in this conversation, and anyone who agreed with you.

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              It’ll actually be good if that happens because 1) it could be dealt with here, 2) that could be used to feed something that helps defend against it

              (e: I mean, it’ll be a nuisance, and @self would be driven to drink, but it could still be handled)

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              I truly wish those so inclined good luck with the downvotes and with coordinating their sockpuppets in a way that isn’t extremely fucking obvious

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              you need to work on your reading comprehension skills, they’re letting you down on your left-field brigading

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      that’s a misleading and meaningless way of putting it. if I rip a page out of my textbook and bring it into an exam room, I do not have with me all the data in my textbook. and yet

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        It doesn’t do that, either. LLMs retain the linguistic patterns found in textbooks, nothing more. It’s remarkable that they can do so much with this information alone, but it’s still a far cry from genuine intelligence.

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          And yet they can spit out copyrighted material verbatim, or near-verbatim, how strange and peculiar.

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          Yeah, even setting aside the intelligence claims, I know I’d be feeling a lot more positive about LLMs as a fun theoretical tool if they weren’t being sold as personal assistants or search engine replacements etc, which even the apologists here admit they’re really really bad at.

          (Also I’d argue “linguistic patterns” is pushing it. “Textual patterns” more like, it’s not supposed to have any idea about grammar or even about what “text” is.) (I say “supposed to” because who knows what sort of hacks they’re running under the hood.)

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      Modified Thursday, May 16th, 2024 at 9:17:13 AM GMT+02:00 Edit: I have no idea what’s going on down below this comment

      lol. at least you’re honest about it