A growing population is what allowed the top 1% to get so absurdly rich and wasteful. Capitalism is dependent on growth.
I’m not blaming the poor for the population growth, I’m actually blaming the rich who encourage it for their benefit. All the talk in the west of ‘we need to grow the population otherwise the system will collapse!! We need to get our people pumping out more kids or, if not, we need more immigration!’ demonstrates this quite well. It’s all about maintaining growth by any means necessary.
And no I’m not anti immigration even slightly, so please don’t miss my entire point here by misunderstanding my position focusing on that.
Population growth is the cause, and their assessment that I was blaming the poor does not change that. There was no convincing (or even unconvincing) argument made that the population isn’t to blame.
Massive wealth inequality existed in human society thousands of years ago too. But climate change on a global scale did not exist until the population exploded since the industrial revolution.
Pretty sure that he pointed out that a small fraction of the population is responsible for an absolutely disproportionate amount of emissions. Is really decreasing the population necessary, or would it be more effective to decrease the emissions of the current population, since we see that a lot of emissions come from so few people?
Also, industrial revolution changed more than just population, I’m sure you know better than simply implying that such a correlation as you describe implies a causation.
A growing population is what allowed the top 1% to get so absurdly rich and wasteful. Capitalism is dependent on growth.
I’m not blaming the poor for the population growth, I’m actually blaming the rich who encourage it for their benefit. All the talk in the west of ‘we need to grow the population otherwise the system will collapse!! We need to get our people pumping out more kids or, if not, we need more immigration!’ demonstrates this quite well. It’s all about maintaining growth by any means necessary.
And no I’m not anti immigration even slightly, so please don’t miss my entire point here by misunderstanding my position focusing on that.
You’re not blaming the poor, but you’re still pointing to population growth as the cause, which raginghummus convincingly argued against.
Population growth is the cause, and their assessment that I was blaming the poor does not change that. There was no convincing (or even unconvincing) argument made that the population isn’t to blame.
Massive wealth inequality existed in human society thousands of years ago too. But climate change on a global scale did not exist until the population exploded since the industrial revolution.
Pretty sure that he pointed out that a small fraction of the population is responsible for an absolutely disproportionate amount of emissions. Is really decreasing the population necessary, or would it be more effective to decrease the emissions of the current population, since we see that a lot of emissions come from so few people?
Also, industrial revolution changed more than just population, I’m sure you know better than simply implying that such a correlation as you describe implies a causation.