Anyone else wondering?

  • ebc@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Signal had something good when it could simply be your default messaging app on your phone, and it’d transparently send either encrypted messages, or plain-text SMS. Now that they’ve removed SMS, they’ve just turned into a worse Whatsapp (because nobody is on it). Network effects are important in messaging apps.

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        2 years ago

        Was that the punch in the face, or was it all the morons intentionally misinterpreting this argument and saying “but why would u want to send nonsecure messages are you aware SMS isn’t secure it’s like so insecure to send SMS bro it’s not secure it’s like literally a security risk bro SMS isn’t secure at all and also are you aware SMS security is poor”

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          Not doubting that pushy idiots are going to pushy idiot, but I think you’ve strawmanned the actual reason hard enough.

          Most people who want it back don’t need, want, or understand why secure messaging exists.

          Here’s the simple facts:

          SMS is not secure, or private.
          Signal is for secure, private comms.

          As mildly inconvenient as it is, Signal explained their reasoning in great detail, and I happen to agree: There should never have been an insecure option on a secure messaging app.

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      2 years ago

      This always struck me as strange thinking.
      Are most people really unable to understand and use different messengers with different contexts and groups?

      Honestly I use a few myself. My job has Tiger Connect. I use Signal with all my family and friends. Then I use SMS for some companies automatic notifications. It’s pretty simple and easy.

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        2 years ago

        Well, yes. But when all your friends are already on Facebook Messenger, good luck getting them to install Signal only to talk with you. Network effects are important; a messaging app has no use when you have nobody to message on the app. Supporting SMS was taking advantage of its network effect, and I don’t think their network was big enough to be self-sustaining for most users (it wasn’t in my case, my only contact in there is my wife).

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          If a friend doesn’t care about you enough to perform the 1 minute task of installing signal they’re not worth your time