• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Theivery is a result of material needs unfulfilled, not some random genetic drive to go stealing.

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      7 months ago

      Some people are born evil. More than most of us would care to think too hard about.

      “The greatest crimes are not those committed for the sake of necessity but those committed for the sake of superfluity. One does not become a tyrant to avoid exposure to the cold.” – Aristotle

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        7 months ago

        “Slavery is both expedient and right” - Aristotle

        Probably a bad idea to quote Aristotle as a moral authority on anything but the rules of rhetoric.

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          7 months ago

          Clearly he was wrong sometimes.

          Was he wrong about the magnitude of crimes committed for the sake of excess being greater than crimes committed for survival? Who steals more - the capitalist class, or the Jean ValJeans of the world?

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            7 months ago

            Said the guy arguing that some people are “born evil” and pretending they can’t follow the logical chain from that assumption.

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        7 months ago

        How do you believe anyone is “born evil”? What does that mean? Would you support eugenics if this ‘evil gene’ could be identified?

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        7 months ago

        What an idealistic, immaterial look at the world. No, people are not born evil with an addiction to stealing, lol.

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          Does the billionaire that steals the excess production of the working class do so out of necessity?

          Does the cop who steals cash from motorists and lies about smelling drugs do so because that cop is underprivileged and disenfranchised by the system?

          Not all humans have working moral compasses. Its an unpleasant reality that can be hard for some people to come to grips with and integrate into their worldview, but failure to understand a problem is unlikely to lead to effective solutions.

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            7 months ago

            People are products of their environment and their material conditions, exactly. You aren’t genetically a billionaire or a cop, lmao.

            What empty, vague idealism.

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              You’re really not wrong, and I’m not entirely sure why you’re being downvoted. Thievery is largely a product of unfulfilled needs or unchecked hoarding of wealth, one could even argue that the latter is just a reaction to living through or fear of the former. An anarchist society solves both of those problems inherently. How do you steal what can be gotten as a matter of course? I feel like the smallest outlier doing such things in a community would just be a mild inconvenience and caught pretty quickly.