“I graduated on June 1, 1996. That was 10,167 days ago, and it has been 10,167 days that I have not used algebra,” Farnsworth said on the Senate floor.

  • aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    When I mentioned the model not matching reality, that’s basically the same thing as saying your assumptions are incorrect. That’s the fatal flaw of logic: you can’t really use it to model the real world without making tons of assumptions about how the world works. For instance, technically speaking, science as a whole is illogical. If 9 people who jump off a roof fall to their death, there is no purely logical reason that the 10th person to jump won’t fly instead.

    As to “an example of constructing a logical argument that proves something that isn’t true” I’m going to be a bit pedantic here and point out that I said

    It’s possible to construct logical arguments that “prove” things that are untrue

    And draw attention to those quotes. You can construct a logical proof, but that doesn’t mean that actually says anything about the world. What I’m meaning is when someone uses a logical proof to claim something untrue is true.

    • audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 months ago

      Part of developing a logic an argument is stating your assumptions.

      Also, the example you pointed out is actually something I see all the time. You’ve tried to draw a deductive conclusion by using inductive logic. This is why we need ACTUAL logic training in schools. Most schools don’t even teach the difference.