• Wogi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    A few thousand dollars a year is an order of magnitude different than a few thousand dollars a month. Shits already expensive in Alaska because it’s remote.

    Incidentally a handful of studies are several orders of magnitude different than actual UBI, and would similarly fail to showcase the problem.

      • Wogi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        8 months ago

        Robust laws also prevent the need for UBI in the first place. If we can’t figure out how to run a society without it, slapping UBI on top of that isn’t actually going to fix anything.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          You’re making no sense. How is giving everyone the financial help to keep them clothed, housed, fed, etc. without needing to work for it not going to fix anything as long as you prevent price gouging?

          • Wogi@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            Ok, let me recontextualize here. “if we can terraform mars, why wouldn’t we migrate because of climate change on earth?” In that scenario, why wouldn’t we fix our climate?

            If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?

            It’s socialism with extra steps. You can just do regular socialism, you don’t need to enshitify socialism with capitalism. You really don’t.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              8 months ago

              If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?

              Because no matter how low priced something is, someone who has no job still can’t afford it.

              • Wogi@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                8 months ago

                So, provide the necessary things. Provide housing, medical care, and clothing to anyone that wants it, doing so will probably be necessary for price controls anyway. I’m not saying those things should be unobtainable. I’m saying UBI is a dumb way to go about providing them.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  So all food should be free? Or should poor people only be allowed to have certain foods for free but rich people can have anything they want to eat?

                  • Wogi@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    I think basic needs should be met, and if you want something better than that you’d need to pay for it.