That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    He really needed to expose the lie of “Sleepy Joe” and he absolutely did. Anyone who honestly thought he has mental deficiencies just got their ass handed to them by an 81 year old.

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      Agreed, he seemed on top of it the whole time, including while responding to the heckles. A few times he flubbed up his words a bit, but that’s been true forever. He’s not the orator Obama is, but it was and excellent speech.

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        Speech impediment + talking way too fast, but he recognized the problem in speaking slowly.

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        He’s not the orator Obama is

        No one is, and that’s just the truth. Obama will probably go down as the most effective public speaker we’ll see in our lifetime.

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          Also a truth is that everyone flubs the occasional word. You and I do it every day. Specially when stressed or tired.

          Theres a stark difference between flubbing a word, and struggling to make a coherent statement.

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          Yeah 100% agree. Like I said, it was a good speech effectively delivered. All these chucklefucks that jump up and down every time he flubs a word are just ridiculous. And they’re complete hypocrites of they use that as a reason to vote for Trump instead - the guy who consistently refers to the wrong president and says complete nonsense every single day.

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      Waiiiit whaaaat, he’s 81? No fucking way, that seals it, I’m not going to vote /s

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      Wtf lol. I could not disagree more. He looks like a sleepy skeleton who they woke up from a nap.

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          No, I heard him tripping up in his words too lol. Maybe I didn’t have my /politics blinders on, sorry.

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              Yeah he did a whole lot of finger pointing and not a lot of explaining the actual state of the union in my opinion, but I mostly skimmed it. Did he mention that under his watch women lost their bodily autonomy, and that the US produced more oil and gas than any country to ever exist?

              Edit: Did he say anything about structuring arms deals so that he could go behind congress’ back to sell a country engaged in genocide more weapons to engage in that genocide?

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                Did he mention that under his watch women lost their bodily autonomy

                Wow, that’s rich. Biden and the Democrats have been fighting against that very thing. It’s being done in Republican controlled states, supported by a Republican majority Congress. Yes, he talked about it.

                It’s like punching him in the nose and then saying you won’t vote for him because he’s got blood on his face.

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                  obviously the republicans are more to blame for the roe v wade repeal, but Democrats have blood on their hands too. It’s been half a century since 1974 and the Democrats have had many majorities and presidencies since then. At no point did they pass some sort of abortion bill.

                  and joe biden has been a leading figure in the democratic party for nearly as long

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                    The majority of Americans felt Roe was the right stance - that abortions should be legal with restrictions, and that states should have a say in those restrictions. Stocking SCOTUS with conservatives (in part by refusing to confirm a judge nominated by a Democrat), and then overturning Roe wasn’t something most realized needed to be fought against.

                    And, regardless, you posted the thing about it happening on his watch as an argument against him - which means you prefer the ones they’re fighting against, the ones who are actively trying to take away a woman’s ability to oversee her own healthcare. How does that make sense?

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        Was that before or after he stared down the Magat trolls and beyond-obviously-corrupted supreme court justices to their faces?