(Apologies for yet another Trump post.)

But given his court appearance Thursday, just funny how he’d start joking about this. I wonder if he actually would, and what would follow. I mean, how would he try to spin it?

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    If bail is supposed to be a disincentive to flee, what effect is $200k supposed to have on a “billionaire”? A pauper would get that high a bond in this case, and no pauper has access to a private jet.

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      We need Swedish day fine systems for all levels of government.

      If a fine costs a month’s wages for someone working minimum wage, it should scale up and still cost a month’s wages for people who earn more.

      That said, cash bail is an incredibly stupid system. If someone is a flight risk, put an anklet on them. If there’s a sincere belief they may flee the jurisdiction, then they need to be deprived of their freedom to travel. And if they aren’t any kind of flight risk get them the fuck out of jail. The punishment should not precede the trial.

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        We have the same system in Finland, and it also accounts for income for capital gains. It does not, however consider assets or the increase of value in assets except during years when assets are sold (when the increase in value is converted to income).

        Still, a better system than fixed fines.

        We don’t have the concept of cash bail and suspects and convicts do occasionally flee. It does mean their belligerence is no longer a direct threat to our society, which is something.

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      Yeah, $200,000 is laughable for somebody like him. I feel like appropriate for someone from upper middle class.

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    Shouldn’t this joke be treated like joking about bombs at an airport? At minimum adding a couple of zeroes to the bond?

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          That’s… actually not a bad idea? Fleeing would solve as many problems for the country as anything. Would love to see him run to Putin or Kim or some other dictator idol; One for the history books! Unfortunately, he’ll probably need more humiliation and losing to get to that point.

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            Would it solve any problems though? Unless they’re set up to catch him in the act of trying to flee, he flees to a country that doesn’t extradite to the US, his supporters become even more incensed than they already are, and the GOP gets an out for whoever they pick as their candidate for the 2024 election since they’d no longer have to fight trump. The con base is now solidified under a single candidate after the primaries, and they’re galvanized against “the deep state liberal socialist commies”.

            The alternative is trump staying, causing further damage to the GOP as he splits the conservative voterbase between his populism and typical republican politicians, and likely gets convicted of multiple felonies. Imo, him leaving just let’s the problem fester, while him staying likely splits the conservative vote

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        He also has SS protection which prevents him from fleeing.

        Really? The same Secret Service that was told the Inspector General wanted to review all their messages around January 6, and then all the Secret Service messages for a two-day period surrounding January 6 were mysteriously deleted?

        The same Secret Service that made Mike Pence sound like a Criminal Minds victim when he said: "I’m not getting in the car, Tim,” Pence said. “I trust you, Tim, but you’re not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.”

        That Secret Service?

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        If his freedom is on the line he would flee. As for properties, he doesn’t need to sell them immediately or I don’t think he even need to sell them. It’s not like he is alone with it.

        The Secret Service was caught treading water for him in some crimes.

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            Putin would promise Trump limitless wealth, a fresh new wife, and oligarch status for residence in Moscow. Trump would enjoy this status until he was no longer of use to Putin.

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              Nah, he would make Trump acting head of the Central Donbas Army. Promoted straight to a 3 star general. Forced to command the front line troops against the Ukrainian offensive from the trenches with an old rusty AK-47.

              Hope he likes Hi, Mars.

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        Is the Secret Service actually empowered to stop a former official (not in office) from doing anything? It’s my understanding former office holders can waive SS protection, so I would presume compliance with SS recommendations or orders is purely optional. Of course there’s nothing stopping SS from phoning Jack Smith to let them know Trump just boarded a plane to Moscow…

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        dude has millions of morons giving him money. also who knows what he mightve gotten for our top secret documents.

        also i dont trust the ss to stop him. they deleted subpeopaed messages relating to jan 6th.

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    How wild that would be. Withdrawal all his campaign donations and just up and go to Russia. He could put a spin on it and make his base extremely upset and violent because the evil left forced him to flee because it’s all rigged.

    They should have never allowed a bond to be set. He should have just been kept in jail until the trial. Any of us normies would have had to…

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    His spectacular lack of self-awareness means that everything he says is projection.

    If he does flee can he please take elmo with him?

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    This probably isn’t of interest in the GA indictment in which Trump is commenting about, but I’d have to imagine Jack Smith is taking notice that a criminal defendant accused of mishandling classified information is joking about flying to Russia. It’s plausible that Trump has classified information at other properties. While less plausible as Trump is a total dope, it’s technically possible he’s got classified information digitized and ready to go with him to Russia. This should be setting off alarm bells everywhere. Anyone else with four major indictments with 91 charges would have been locked up in jail by now.

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    Donnie, flee to Russia before it’s too late

    Before it’s too late

    Before it’s too late

    Donnie, flee to Russia before it’s too late

    Before they blow up your world

    Next press conference he will be in an adidas tracksuit crouched awkwardly on the ground saying, “It was a joke comrade”.

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    Watch a good chunk of the American people vote for a convicted man who fled to Russia for 2024!

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    I mean, him running away to Russia would split Republicans even more. He’d still have his dedicated followers, but it would cause even more of a fight regarding DeSantis and others.

    I’m trying to decide which would be more chaotically beneficial for the rest of us, him going to jail or fleeing.

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      Him going to jail is the better scenario as he can still run even if he is in prison and he’ll split the R vote down the middle. But if he flees the country they’ll strike his name off the ballot and you get a DeSantis on the ballot as the official nomination. I still think the R’s would lose, but it would be a closer contest.

      These trials are going to take forever so I don’t think he’ll flee until after he loses in 2024. At that point he has no reason to stay anymore.

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        Though at this point, it looks like Trump will get the nomination with no real competition from DeSantis or anyone else, regardless of going to jail.

        Trump fleeing and some states striking him from the ballot will enrage his supporters and make them not vote for who the actual nominee is.

        I think the fleeing outcome harms the Republican chances more.

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      Good question. I’m not sure how truly attached his followers are to him, but if they are really that tied to him and his media ecosystem, I think it would be worse for him to be in Russia. It brings a whole new loyalty into the mix with those folks.

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      Their position on Russia is one of the more ridiculous contortions for Trump fanatics. They claim to hate communism and love freedom and yet their daddy sold out to the Kremlin so they have to find ways to act like they wanted us to be Russian apologists all along.

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        There’s no inconsistency in hating communism and loving Putin’s Russia, since Putin and today’s Russia have nothing to do with communism.

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        The crazy thing is that the reason why communism sucks is that (at least currently) it requires totalitarianism to implement it. And that comes with a lot of issues. Communism in theory looks like utopia. Russia no longer is communist, but it absolutely is totalitarian, but according to them that’s somehow good.

        Also what I noticed is that those tankies on lemmygrad, aren’t really pro communism, they are pro totalitarianism.

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        There’s a whole bunch of MAGAts who are pro-Russia. Just listen for the anti-Ukraine rhetoric, then go check their voting patterns.