• Donjuanme@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Fascists from the left? The left can’t get anyone more extreme than mayonnaise, what Democrat fascists are winning primaries?

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      Fascists from the left?

      Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard someone say “National SOCIALISM!” But I think this is more referring to the Kristen Sinemas and Robert Menendezes who spend more time finding ways to strangle Cuba to death and sell F-35s to Turkish dictators than to curb carbon emissions or mitigate the damage inflicted by COVID.

      If you know of a better way to describe what kind of ideologue sips $1000 btl wine in a cave full of corporate arms dealers while negotiating the finer points of our next proxy war in Latin America, I’d love to hear it.

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        Or, you know.

        The people also enabling a genocide. Two, even!

        Because everyone forgot to be mad about the Uyghurs somehow.

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          Because everyone forgot to be mad about the Uyghurs somehow.

          If the Uyghurs had been on the other side of the China/Afghanistan border, we’d be gasoline bombing them while half the nation clapped.

          On the off chance that China does a Capitalist Revolution and all those western business interests discover they’ve got an opportunity to strip mine Hongshan Mountain for precious metals, its going to be Iraq War Redux over there inside a hot minute.

          Even now, folks from the NBA to Hollyweird have decided actually China is very cool and good, so long as they can keep selling jerseys and toys to middle-income kids and box seat tickets to traveling executives. All this shit is forever about the money. You can stack the corpses to the moon and it’ll still be about the money.

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      It doesn’t say “from the left”. It says “from both parties”. Biden is the fascist from the other party.

      Democrats are in no way, shape, or form part of “the left”.

      At bare minimum someone on the left would be completely opposed to capitalism. They might be a mutualist, communalist, anarcho-syndicalist, anarcho-communist, etc.

      Democrats are Neo-liberals and support the status quo. Maybe not outright fascists like the Republicans, but they have more in common with Republicans than they do with anyone on the left and when push comes to shove they’re not going to oppose fascism, they’re just going to go along with it. “Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.”

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        Biden is the fascist from the other party.

        Biden is in no way, shape, or form a fascist. Particularly in the context of a Trump ascendancy.

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          Yeah. I absolutely cannot square that circle either. This is a very, very thick supra-orbital brow take.

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            Can’t possibly figure out why some people won’t quibble on the mathematics of how much imperialism you can do and how much genocide you can enable if you still love democratic rights for the people that matter.

            The best nation on Earth. The Ubermensches, if you will. As long as they have the vote, it will all work out.

            But, hey, if you’re going to have choose between two fascists, might as well pick the one you have to cut to find it, especially when he’s the one that isn’t openly crooked and understands that investing in infrastructure is how to empower a nation.

            That is, after all, technically quite an improvement. You would actually be stupid to pick the worse choice of a forced dichotomy out of spite, or to forget that inaction is a choice.

            But, no.

            Why would anyone is this sub observe this reality?

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      Adam Schiff vehemently opposes a permanent cease fire in Israel.

      California also just passed a plan to involuntarily institutionalize it’s homeless people.

      That’s just the news from today. There will be more hellscape tomorrow.

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        Edit: deleted my original arguments because I fell for the dishonest troll ….

        I don’t know what you’re going on about, but this “today” news, best I can find online is two years ago

        require counties to provide comprehensive treatment to the most severely impaired and untreated Californians and hold patients accountable to their treatment plan

        Or this past October

        working closely with the city and county of Sacramento to build a tiny home village on Stockton Boulevard that will be a model for the rest of the state. Residents will be embedded in a community wellness campus specializing in substance abuse disorder treatment and mental health care.

        Neither of which bears any resemblance to the claim

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          Prop 1 that we just voted on is a plan to remove funding from outpatient treatment that’s highly rated by it’s patients. That money would be used to build and staff thousands of new beds for mentally ill homeless and veterans. The measure was largely sold as a way to clear the streets of homeless people.

          Now how are they going to get homeless people who don’t want to leave to go into in patient treatment? Involuntary commitment.

          Furthermore because it’s being sold as a way to get homeless people off the streets it creates an open end political mandate to keep expanding the program as long as someone complains about homeless people . Since someone is making money, supplying, building, and staffing these places; there’s also going to be business lobby pressure to increase funding and program use for the foreseeable future.

          Tl;dr Prop 1 isn’t wanted by the patients, or the people who care for them. And it’s sold as an anti homeless measure. That’s really all you need to know to know it’s crooked.

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      Genocide Joe

      Biden has been a practical GOP plant for his entire career. Backing every anti-progressive measure and introducing others. Now he supports Genocide.

      Libs still accusing Republicans of the things that Democrats are now openly doing too. The irony.