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      1 year ago

      Ah yes the same evil capitalism that:

      1. Allowed SO to exist in the first place
      2. Have market incentive to get anywhere near as good as they once were

      Do you have a better system in mind?

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          1 year ago

          That’s true, but does your answer on SO pay the bills for running and serving the content?

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          Obviously anything that succeeds in a capitalist economy succeeded because of capitalism, and anything that succeeds in a not-fully-capitalist economy does so in spite of the corrupting influence of socialism.

          Remember, capitalism can’t fail; it can only be failed!

          Slash S.

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          Answer my original question first and you have your proof or not. If you can’t answer, there’s your proof.

          Yeah, information was freely traded before the advent of capitalism, and you’re still free to walk over to your neighbor’s house and ask questions about your code, but they’re not going to be near the quality of a large scale service like SO.

          Where do you expect the resources to come from to have and serve content reliably? They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.

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              China is successful from the capitalistic point of view, but it failed to uphold the ideals and principles of the system described in the document. The exploitation of the people is through the roof.

              Edit:

              To further explain my point: Communism is a flawed system that cannot exist in its idealistic form due to the excessive concentration of power in the state, leading to three potential outcomes:

              1. The collapse of the country.
              2. The transformation into a state capitalist system, as seen in China.
              3. The transformation into an authoritarian regime, as seen in North Korea.

              Communism is, in my opinion, a pipe dream because it proposes a classless, stateless society where the means of production are collectively owned and wealth is distributed equally among all members. However, in practice, historical attempts at implementing communism have faced challenges in terms of human nature, central planning inefficiencies, and lack of incentives, leading to economic stagnation, authoritarian rule, and often the collapse of the system.

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              China is communist in name only, in practice they are the definition of State Capitalism. I also wouldn’t describe a dictatorship that commits genocide as a success, in any case.

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            Name a single country that actually implemented communism and wasn’t undermined by the West with coups, sanctions, or outright invasion.

            Oh and the word you’re looking for is “successful”. “Successive” is not in any way a synonym.