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    9 months ago

    Firefly for too soon

    Heroes for too long. It was a strong concept but there’s only so many ways you can write interesting stories with it before it becomes too much

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      Did Heroes eventually have a proper ending, or did you also abruptly stop watching as it continued to drag on?

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      Heroes suffered from lostism. It was a great show until they completely explained it. We love making wild guesses and hate it when the truth is less exciting than what we were thinking it might be.

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        9 months ago

        Can you spoil lost for me? I watched the first season but it was too much of a time sink and I just wanted them to explain it to me already

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          Everyone died on the plane crash, the plane actually sunk to the bottom of the ocean. Everyone who “survived” went to the Island, which was a type of purgatory. The survivors had to discover an afterlife for them all to live in. They actually find the sunk plane in the real world, and when new people arrive on the island, they remember hearing about the lost flight and the dead passengers whose bodies were found inside the plane. At one point, a couple survivors escape the island and go back to the real world, but eventually they come to find they no longer belong in the land of the living and head back. The big focal point near the end is where a nuclear-weapons-like device goes off and there’s a new storyline where the plane doesn’t crash. This new storyline is where the survivors finally found a happy afterlife to live in together. They end up reliving all the major events of the first season, and as they do, they remember their lives on the island and their relationships with each other.

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          I can’t truly spoil it, they treated the whole series like a fever dream. We spent the whole think collecting hints and details while they barely stayed consistent within their own canon.

          There was this one scene fairly early on I think in the second season They had to leave this control center room and as the blast shields were coming down to permanently seal the room there was a giant black light drawing of the island and all kinds of glorious details of relays and switches and control centers. We froze the frame and extracted it and poured over it for weeks. They really didn’t use any of it going forward.

          I’m fairly certain they just made the story up as it went along trying to throw curve balls to anyone that would guess what was going to happen.

          By the time it was done there was time travel, immortal beings and the afterlife all kind of just crammed together to make sure that no one could have seen exactly what was coming.

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        They also had characters that were way too overpowered and it painted them in a corner. They had to keep handicapping them.

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          What I heard was the writers weren’t comic book fans and didn’t know the risk of overpowered characters- they wrote themselves in a corner.

          It was also designed to be an anthology show with new heroes every season.

          And the first Writers Strike didn’t help at all.

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            And and and, the second season juggled a dozen characters, so every week was storyline roulette. An episode could be full of plot and still wind up as filler because you don’t give two shits about any of the characters getting screen time.

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    Seeing so many people mention Firefly gives me this warm fuzzy feeling inside.

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        I haven’t watched the Hulu reboot so I can’t be certain but this feels a bit like sacrilege. Every other Futurama revival has been excellent, so I’d be surprised if the latest one isn’t also great.

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          There were a few poor episodes but some of them felt like classic Futurama. And the season finale went out with a bang. The season is worth it. Only issue might be Billy West’s aging voice.

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    9 months ago

    Too long: The Walking Dead, Money Heist

    Too soon: Firefly, Extracurricular

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    My list:

    Too soon:

    • The OA
    • Firefly
    • Caprica (it was just starting to get interesting)
    • Stargate Universe
    • Jericho
    • Altered Carbon

    Too long:

    • Game of thrones
    • Dexter
    • Lost
    • Arrested development (they made a huge mistake bringing it back)
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      I am still mad that SGU didn’t even get a sign-off movie on SyFy. That franchise was a massive property for that network, and the moment one of them faltered in the ratings they just dropped it like it was diseased. Those characters deserved better.

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      Altered Carbon season 1 was absolutely amazing. Everything from the cyberpunk aesthetic to Joel Kinnaman’s acting was a joy to behold. The story in season 2 was good but Anthony Mackie killed it for me … In a bad way.

      Mackie is just such a limited actor. Why does he continue to get cast in movies?

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        Yeah I didn’t rate him at all either, and it definitely started off a lot slower, but by the end I was properly into the story of season 2. It’s a really shame as like you said season 1 was incredible, they just didn’t have the same budget for S2. I would have liked to see more as we would have had a different actor and it never really got finished.

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      I recommend watching the redited version of arrested development. It’s slightly better and the characters feel less isolated.

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      I was pleasantly surprised at how good Our Flag Means Death turned out to be. I heard they were considering continuing with other characters as the main focus, but waititi thought the blackbeard and stede bonnet story was finished.

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    Stargate SG-1.

    Season 7 finale was perfect… and then season 8 happened. It did get better with seasons 9 and 10, but the Ori arc was just a weird tonal shift from the original Egyptian mythos.

    I love the show, but that’s my hot take. Should’ve ended with season 7 and just transitioned over to Atlantis instead of running alongside it.

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      Season 8 was supposed to be the end. They wrapped up both the replicator and goauld arcs. They were going to make a spin off called Stargate Command, but at some point they changed to title back to SG-1.