President Joe Biden on Sunday ticked through a list of reasons he says a second Donald Trump presidency would be a “nightmare” for the country as he urged Nevada Democrats to vote for him in the state’s presidential primary this week and for his party at large in November.

Biden opened a campaign swing with a fundraiser where he focused on Trump’s ample history of provocative statements — his description of Jan. 6 rioters as “hostages,” his musing about a former top military officer deserving execution, his branding of fallen soldiers as “suckers” and “losers,” his wish to be a Day One “dictator,” his vow to supporters that “I am your retribution,” and more.

Then it was on to a community center in a predominantly Black section of Las Vegas, where he told his crowd of several hundred that “you’re the reason we’ll make Donald Trump a loser again.”

Biden said the stakes were huge when he took on Trump in 2020 — “what made America America, I thought, was at risk’ — and they are even larger now as a likely rematch looms.

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    I don’t think Republicans care about what Trump did. Trump is the favorite to win the republican nomination and its not even close. And Republicans sure as shit aren’t voting for Biden.

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      I think he’s trying to get swing and less like to vote votes, not appeal to the loony party

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          Enormous divisions are showing within the GOP as the unreasonable forces are gaining ground, but the old guard knows how insane and fascist this path is.

          That part of the GOP is sizable and realizing they don’t need to follow along the same path as the fascists. Give those people a soft landing, not a harsh criticism, and they’ll join your decision that they don’t want the future presented to them.

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            What a fancy way to say, “please dont punish us for spending the last 8 years supporting a rapist who our members of the House voted to support in an attempt to overthrow democracy!”

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              Are you interested in a better future for everyone, or punishing the spectrum of those who you feel were led to make decisions you don’t agree with?

              You can’t have both.

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                How can we trust they won’t turn around and do it again immediately?

                Like I agree in principle with you, but I have no trust left

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                  The point is to wear each other out. They’re just people, talk to them and give them education and safe spaces to discuss ideas… it’s not the fair idea, but it’s the idea that breaks the system of hate keeping us at each other’s throats, too busy with an ideological war to fight the class war that’ll free society.

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                    If you think there exists a “safe” space to discuss fascism, and overthrowing democracy, then you really have no concept of what’s happening in this country right now.

                    Last time we went easy on traitors, they built memorials to their traitorous scum leaders and created the “lost cause” concept that is ruining our country to this day.

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                Kind of like that we did with the south after the Civil War?

                How did Reconstruction end up going again…?

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      There is a growing group of never-Trump Republicans that have already stated that they will vote for Biden if Trump wins the nomination. The party at the top though is on board 100% though as they see Trump as their ticket to power, and none of them actually want to believe he will gut the party if he wins since he will no longer need them post election.

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      Well that’s exactly the point. Why waste time and energy on a lost cause? It’s equally as absurd that there are swing voters to me, but hey, some people don’t even know an election is happening soon.

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        Elections are decided by swing voters.

        40% will always vote down their line regardless of what is presented to them. Those few thousand people willing to switch sides will always determine the path of the country, which is why such enormous resources are sent to court them.

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          I would say it’s a combination of swing voters and voter turnout. Some people can be convinced to switch sides, and others just need to be convinced to participate.

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      Trump is the favorite to win the republican nomination and its not even close.

      Trump is also leading against Biden in poll after poll now, so they don’t see any reason to switch horses.