Apple CEO Tim Cook told CNBC in a statement shared on live television that Apple has no intention to license Masimo’s patents. While it seemed likely that was the case, the company hadn’t said as much publicly until now.

“We’re focused on appeal,” Cook’s statement said. “There’s lots of reasons to buy the watch even without the blood oxygen sensor.”

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    10 months ago

    “”There’s lots of reasons to buy the watch even without the blood oxygen sensor””.

    I’m sorry but that was the entire reason I was going to trade-in my series 4 for a newer one. So I guess my series 4 that barely last 20hrs will continue to live on my nightstand. I would wear a normal watch if my health wasn’t garbage or if I could ever feel my phone vibrate when it is in my pocket.

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      I’ve found the blood oxygen feature on the Apple Watch to be worthless. The error bars on its measurements must be massive, so I would get numerous measurements every day down in the 80s. Better, finger-tip-based hardware measurements taken at the same time were never below 96%. And I’m careful about wearing the Watch just the way Apple recommends. I ended up just turning the feature off entirely, because I don’t want junk data in my Health history. I actually agree with Masimo’s CEO, who said, “I really feel wholeheartedly that consumers are better off without it."

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        Yeah it’s not at all accurate for me. I’m almost always at about 100% but the highest I’ve ever read is 96%. The lowest I’ve ever seen was 94% when I was at around 95%. I’ve never been sick enough to measure anything lower so maybe it’s accurate when your health is shit?

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      10 months ago

      Can’t you take a trip to Canada or Europe and buy one?

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        10 months ago

        That is a valid option. However, I do not feel it is worth the investment to just purchase a watch.

        To be honest when I made my initial comment I was having a bad day and reading Cook’s statement irrationally irritated me.

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    Don’t have to license a patent if your worst case scenario is you just buy the company.

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      I actually don’t think you are too far off. About a week ago i read about Masimo unavailing their watch for $999. Not many people will buy a watch for that much even with a blood ox system in it.

      I think Apple will wait a year or two for them to “fail” by not succeeding like the investors want and then offer to purchase the company. A super low ball price and then just keep moving on with their plans.

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      10 months ago

      Their anticompetitive behavior lately (well always, but especially lately) feels so whiny and infantile.

      They’re kicking and screaming about their closed ecosystem and stealing patented information.

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    10 months ago

    Does anyone know if the blood oxygen sensor in ultra watch 2 is used for measuring VO2 max?

    I got the ultra 2 because I’m training for ultramarathons and I kind of like to keep track of this as I progress/age.

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      No, V̇O2 max is estimated by the Apple Watch without any help from the blood oxygen sensor. I’ve had the blood oxygen sensor turned off on my Apple Watches for years, but I still get V̇O2 max estimations after outdoor runs.

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        10 months ago

        Right, but just like this watch has better GPS than the others, I was curious if the additional hardware could improve VO2 max readings compared to previous watches.