Make federal investigation in to any potential wrongdoing a retirement for holding any rejected federal office. Staff an entire branch of the government who’s only job it is to investigate elected officials.
The FBI used to hold sting operations for corrupt elected officials. They had to stop because they found like 70% of them to be corrupt.
If they kept at it, would the number not go down?
No, the number of very rich and/or very clumsy FBI directors would go up.
Would? I guess it did.
ABSCAM. Interesting read.
i assume… “requirement” and “elected” instead of “retirement” and “rejected”?
Probably prudent, but then how do we select this branch of government and protect it from becoming corrupt?
B-b-but…
B-b-but…
B-b-but… then how would you politicize that!?
Unfortunately some people aren’t merely dumb, they are outright evil:-(.
“requirement”, right? Unless you mean they should be forced to retire if they are investigated.
Staff an entire branch of the government who’s only job it is to investigate elected officials.
Yeah, and we could call it the Congress or something!
This exact conversation happened to me IRL once - and it was about a decade ago. The shock expression of the woman who realized I wasn’t gong to protect Bill -hell anyone on my side- match my shocked expression a second later when I realized she was trying to set up a M.A.D. scenario about child sex traffickers. These people are gross.
Yep.
They can’t fathom that democrats arent as corrupt and vile as they are.
Thats why they project so much.
They are convinced they are doing X, so Democrats must be doing X too.
BUT also, Hunter Biden gets prosecuted for any crime he’s committed
push push push push
That’s the thing about MAGAts. They assume that because they will circle the wagons and defend to their last breath everyone who bends the knee to Orange Man, or of course him himself, that Democrats must obviously be seething at the idea that anyone even tangentially connected to Biden face a day in court.
I like asking them why they aren’t defending Hunter Biden against that gun charge what with blah blah government overreach blah blah second amendment rights…
Bill already has done irreparable damage to american democracy. Why would anyone but an establishment dem come to his defense?
That’s cute how you equate clinton and trump.
Bro, where in the actual fuck are you getting that from?
Weid they would think Twitter is the only place where that happens. Happens pretty much everywhere.
So you hate the universe and all other parallel dimensions!!! Well why don’t you go back to where you came from!!!
Dem voters would likely sell out all buf a few of the ones they really really like. Bernie or Newsom I guess but I don’t live in their states.
Here people “like” Fetterman and recently that has even struggled. People do not give a fuck about Josh Shapiro
“sell out” is a weird way to talk about having principles
We/They are fickle. Look at how they feel about their candidates. Look at the options they overwhelmingly vote for.
Your username is aaaaaaaaalmost right.
Criminals must face charges on both sides, Trump or Clinton or Newsom I don’t give a fuck.
Fetterman’s population started to fall off pretty quickly when he started backing Israel’s genocide out of nowhere. I dunno whether he was hiding his power level on that nonsense up to this point, or if it’s literal brain damage, but it’s no good.
Of course, the broader issue is that Republicans are motivated by culture war nonsense, fear and disgust, and many know they’re engaging in dishonest team sports, so they assume the Dems are too.
Not everyone thinks popularity is the only consideration on issues, you know?
Ever consider the possibility that Fetterman’s stance on Israel is actually based on facts? Is it possible you may only be looking at what’s popular (as determined by social media algorithms) while Fetterman is considering things you’re not? Is it possible for the popular opinion to be wrong?
Is it possible that Fetterman, who you think is right on all the other issues, may also be right about Israel even while the popular opinion is wrong?
I’ll wait for you to consult with the social media algorithms to determine what the most popular responses to these questions are.
Believe it or not, I think genocide is a bad thing - a concept I assume you’re incapable of grasping given your implied defence of Israel’s actions.
His stance on Israel is unpopular because it’s monstrous - it’s not monstrous because it’s unpopular. This is a deeply stupid take in defence of a genocide.
Oh look - a peek at your comment history shows you characterising Hamas’s actions as a genocide in the last 2 hours - you’re a real John Wayne Gacy-type - a murderous, monstrous fucking clown that just loves dead kids.
Have you ever considered the possibility that what Israel is doing is not actually genocide?
See on the internet you can be siloed off to the point you’re only ever hearing people say the same thing over and over until you start to believe it’s true.
I see that’s it’s now popular to say that Israel is committing genocide. Have you considered that’s part of an attempt to create a false equivalency narrative to claim make it seem like what Hamas did on October 7 isn’t all that bad because “both sides”?
At Palestinian protests that people like to go to for a social gathering many times there are people cosplaying as Hamas guys. How do you make it palatable to people that there are people cosplaying as genocidal psychopaths at the rallies they enjoy attending? Well you gotta normalize genocide. Israel is doing genocide too! I’m in another thread where people are claiming that Obama committed genocide as well.
Maybe Fetterman just isn’t going along with these attempts to normalize genocide. The Palestinian movement is a violent movement with a lot of antisemitism problems that hasn’t made any real effort to disassociate itself from the genocidal actions of Hamas. Violent, antisemitic, anti-democracy movements that are all about the blood and soil “from the river to the sea” type shit have been popular in the past, you know. And they tend to accuse others of the crimes that they do. But some of us have read enough history to understand that it’s not a good idea to buy into these kinds of movements.
Hamas is an anti-democracy antisemitic group that has committed genocide. They accuse Israel of committing genocide. And you believe them simply because it’s a popular thing to do?
Have you ever considered the possibility that what Israel is doing is not actually genocide?
Over 10,000 children have been killed in Gaza. 10,000 kids, teenagers, infants, preteens, toddlers Dead. Any conflict with that many literal children killed is clearly fucked up beyond reason and highly likely to be officially classified as a genocide
You do understand that civilian casualties have happened in nearly every war in history? You’re just claiming that all war is genocide. But then we need to come up with a term for when a group deliberately target civilians which is what Hamas did and Israel is not doing. Or maybe we just continue to describe what Hamas did as genocide and what Israel is doing as a war. Because we already have the necessary words needed to describe the distinction between a group that is deliberately targeting and killing civilians (genocide) and a group that is in conflict with another combatant and that conflict causes civilian casualties (war).
Now I understand that many people have spent most of the formative life thinking Israel is the bad guys and Palestine is the good guys. But things are so black and white. Netanyahu is an asshole, but most Israelis are good people. The children that were murdered by Hamas did nothing wrong.
Most Palestinians are good people, but have been living under the oppressive government of Hamas for so long many have been radicalized and antisemitic. Hamas is straight up genocidal psychopaths. Hamas is obviously bad for Israel but is also an oppressive government that for the last decade and half has indoctrinated people from a young age to make them capable of genocide. We don’t like genocide, right? So Hamas has to be eliminated or at least diminished to the point where it’s no longer able to hold power. Then Hamas won’t be able to commit future genocide. Which is what we want right?
So how do you go about preventing Hamas from committing future genocide? Ask them nicely? You see the problem with the kind of psychopaths that actually commit genocide is sure they’ll agree to a ceasefire, but the goal is to survive, regroup and commit genocide again. So how do we remove Hamas from the equation? War is actually the only option. Wars do result in civilian war. This is a war that was started because of the genocide Hamas committed. Hamas are a group of psychopaths that don’t care about the deaths of Palestinian civilians. In fact they consider them to be Shahids, so civilian deaths are a good thing to them. So a war against a group that wants their own civilians to die is obviously going to have a lot of civilian casualties. They built hundreds of miles of tunnels to keep themselves safe, not to keep the 10,000 kids, teenagers, infants, preteens, toddlers you mentioned safe.
It’s an odd thing isn’t it? It’s Israel’s responsibility to keep Palestinian civilians safe, but nobody even considers what Hamas’ responsibility is in terms of keeping Palestinian civilians safe. Why is this? Because we all know that Hamas is a monster. But we also want to keep this monster alive? Why?
I’ve considered the possibility that what Israel are doing isn’t genocide - then I picked up a dictionary and the UN definition, and that cleared things up nicely.
Where do you get your definition of genocide?
Lmao
Imagine supporting terrible people just because they have ® next to their name.
How to make cartoon button real?
Smashing that no one is above the law button like a boss.
Are you saying both sides are part of the giant pedo elite cabal? No way!
TBF with the information available an investigation would be more likely to clear any doubts on Clinton than it would incriminate him.
Pretty much the only interaction between the two would be using the Epstein’s Private Plane on a trip to several charity medical sites across Africa.
If there was more than that I’d love to know about it, though, so hell yeah press the button.
A wise woman once said “Burn them all!”
I thought that was said by General Douglas “Nuke Manchuria” MacArthur.
They’re all scum and criminals. Some more than others. I won’t defend garbage politicians who represent my interests, the same way I won’t defend garbage politicians that don’t.
If they’re garbage and criminals, they should be prosecuted regardless of what they stand for or vote for. Nobody is above the law.
I don’t know what people don’t get about all people being equal, but that’s what it is. We are all citizens, we are all responsible for our own actions, and if we do the illegal, then we should face the consequences of that action regardless of who we are, or what we do, or how much money/influence/whatever, we may possess.
I know it doesn’t work that way. Some people get away with shit constantly because they’re rich/influential/whatever, but that reality doesn’t impact my perspective on the matter. They should be prosecuted, whether they are or not is another issue entirely. Given the choice to have people investigated or not for crimes, I say go for it. If the people convicted are those that I may have voted for or supported in the past, then I’m glad they’ve been convicted and removed. They probably didn’t deserve my support, but I can only operate on information I have, not information of what might be true…
It’s also worth noting that people with undisclosed skeletons in their closet are blackmailable. So even if they represented your interests in the past that all ends once someone puts them on a leash. This is why even if you make no moral judgements there are pragmatic reasons to not have such people in office.
To be fair, that’s pretty much every politician. The whole thing is a swamp and IMO, we need to eject all of them into the sun and start over.
Would you mind sharing the original meme that you use as template, please? Looks like the kind of stuff I want to keep close for future memes.
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The only reason I’m not okay with Hunter Biden is because it was a witch hunt.
They had no evidence he did anything wrong yet started the investigation anyway just because of his last name.
That’s not a corrupt person charged feel good story it’s a big brother is watching story
My favorite thing about Hunter Biden is it demonstrates that Joe is a career politician who’s actually clean enough that they have to make up shit about his grown kid. At least they aren’t going after Beau.
It turns out the laptop wasn’t made up.
It turns out the FBI lied when labeling it Russian Propaganda.
It turns our the “10% for the big guy” email is genuine.
It turns out the big guy is Joe.
Citation needed
Despite persistent allegations that the laptop contents indicated corruption by Joe Biden, a joint investigation by two Republican Senate committees released in September 2020 did not find wrongdoing by him, nor did a Republican House Oversight committee investigation by November 2023.[12][13][14][15][16]
Just admit to yourself that you fell prey to a Russian psyop to destabilize their adversary (us). It’s not that difficult, or even far-fetched, compared to even a fifth of the drivel coming out of far-right media.
Citation for what part? The 4 points I raised above are not “made up shit”.
Your decision to add a 5th point no way negates the previous 4. Why bring Russia into this? Did they supply Hunter’s drugs on the day he submitted his laptop for repairs?
Why was Joe to receive 10% of Hunter’s deal? Can you answer that?
It turns out the FBI lied when labeling it Russian Propaganda.
You brought Russia into it, my man.
And you can’t seriously still believe the whole thing, can you? It was a shit show from the very beginning. Starts off with a blind republican shop owner who even said “I’m not sure it was Hunter Biden”. Then months of absolutely no official handling. Tons of stuff that doesn’t make any sense…like why would someone of the upper echelons, like Hunter Biden, personally (not an assistant) drop off a laptop at an unauthorized (as in, not Apple certified) third-party repair shop, containing evidence of his dads corruption, during his dads election run, and then never pick it up?
Thats like half a dozen highly suspect things that happened before he even called the FBI, which didn’t come till after he held it for three months. And he only contacted them because of Giuliani’s trumped up allegations of corruption in Ukraine, yet he felt that the information on the drives was sensitive enough to make several copies for himself before that? There’s a couple more.
Then the FBI doesn’t respond for a couple months so he starts emailing congressmen, assumedly Republicans, and not one responded (I’m guessing their bullshit-detectors were spinning full-tilt). Then when he gets in contact with Giuliani/Costello, over a year after contacting the FBI, he gets a response.
So what happens? Giuliani, bastion of reputability that he is (/s), contacts the New York Post, the pinnacle of sound investigative journalism (/s, it is actually classified as a Tabloid, and is owned by Murdoch, who is also highly right-biased), and tells them what he knows.
The NY Post gets a copy to look at. Washington Post reaches out to them and Bannon asking for a copy to analyze independently. After all, if we’re going to have a far-right rag investigate corruption on a Democrat, it’s only makes sense that a slight-left journal gets a chance to at least fact-check them. Otherwise the whole thing has absolutely no credibility.
And of course, Bannon and NY Post refused. Why? If they have something, a left-leaning journal verifying it would be huge. And even if they are lying, they can just play the same Uno Reverse card they have up their sleeve for every other time they get caught with their pants down.
Ultimately when WaPo gets it, the first thing they see is that it had been tampered with, and that additional folders were created prior to it being handed to NYP, but long after the store took custody.
Through all this, even though several other emails can be confirmed legitimate through cryptographic signatures and finding received copies of the emails, not one of the juicy ones can. Not just by WaPo, but also by NyPo, and three republican-led congressional committees.
You fell for a hoax. Admit it. It should be easy, we’re dealing with conmen and serial liars like Trump and Giulliani. How the hell you, or anybody else, fell for their used car salesman schtick several times completely blows my mind, and honestly and makes me fear for the future of humanity.
Your summary is pretty good. However, pointing out that Trump and Giulliani are liars who can’t handle evidence properly, doesn’t make the suspicious email disappear. Nor does it allow the FBI to claim Russian Propaganda.
A few answers and clarifications below:-
You brought Russia into it
No. I deliberately excluded Russia. What reason is there for you and the FBI to conclude any Russian involvement with the President’s son’s private email?
why would Hunter Biden drop off a laptop containing evidence of his dads corruption?
Drugs. Also it was only one email in a whole hard drive relating to Joe.
he felt that the information on the drives was sensitive enough to make several copies for himself before that?
Backing up drives is standard practice when repairing a PC.
Ultimately when WaPo gets it, the first thing they see is that it had been tampered with,
The FBI had the first copy and it was untampered. CBS experts also found no signs of tampering
Through all this, even though several other emails can be confirmed legitimate through cryptographic signatures and finding received copies of the emails, not one of the juicy ones can.
You fell for a hoax.
You did, if you doubt the following:-
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“10 for the big guy” email is real.
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No connections to Russia.
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“If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” soundin mfer
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“Wow, so Bill Clinton AND Trump get locked up? What’s the downside?”
One of Trump’s defense arguments for presidential immunity for any action was that if presidents didn’t have it, Bush could be prosecuted for misleading Congress about WMDs, and Obama could be prosecuted for drone strikes against civilians.
Yes please.
You mean we should’ve given Nixon his well deserved punishment for treason, instead of a pardon? And we might have set an example to others, and be on a very different timeline? Fuuuuuuu
Hahahahhahaha riiight!!! Hahahhahha
You guys really think the right cares if Trump is implicated in any Epstein stuff? I’m sure if it were up to them, they would smash that button if it let Assange free to say whatever he’s got.
The right doesn’t care at all of any of Trumps crimes. He could do the whole 5th avenue pew pew and wouldn’t lose a vote.
