I would agree Mr PP Boy, but my self proclaimed communist friend from childhood loved Stalin. And last I ran into him he was reading Maos theory. Guy was 27 years old at that point too.
So for those of us following along at home, you know a guy who believes a thing, therefore you have applied that belief to all people who proclaim to believe a different thing?
And his friends. And the people in the Marxist Leninist instances here.
Also, another really smart dude I talk to regularlu, he says he would consider himself a Marxists. Probably not a Tankie, but still says stupid shit saying that the war un Ukraine is the US fault and its a result of NATO expansionist. Which is wrong for so many reasons. And his grandma was a communist China apologist.
Communism is stupid, and the people that follow it are dogmatic and have no pragmatic basis for their “theory” other than their feelings. If it offends go cry about it.
Or apparently not replying at all, in this case. My favorite is the Jordan Peterson response, though: “I had over 6 months to prepare for a debate on this topic after decades of claiming to be an expert and showed up to admit I could only be bothered to read his manifesto”
At what age are you supposed to stop hoping for a more equal world and start cheering on the billionaires destroying the planet? I’m in my 40’s and I might be a little behind.
A tankie is every bit as real of a leftist as an anarchist or demsoc imo. Tankies suck balls, no question. But to say that they’re not true leftists is kinda dumb. A typical convinced tankie well and truly believes that they are fighting for equality and the path towards communism.
I don’t think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don’t even want socialism at all.
They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism.
I would agree Mr PP Boy, but my self proclaimed communist friend from childhood loved Stalin. And last I ran into him he was reading Maos theory. Guy was 27 years old at that point too.
So for those of us following along at home, you know a guy who believes a thing, therefore you have applied that belief to all people who proclaim to believe a different thing?
As is the way.
And his friends. And the people in the Marxist Leninist instances here.
Also, another really smart dude I talk to regularlu, he says he would consider himself a Marxists. Probably not a Tankie, but still says stupid shit saying that the war un Ukraine is the US fault and its a result of NATO expansionist. Which is wrong for so many reasons. And his grandma was a communist China apologist.
Communism is stupid, and the people that follow it are dogmatic and have no pragmatic basis for their “theory” other than their feelings. If it offends go cry about it.
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I don’t agree with it so it must not be true lol damn like evangelical christians
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Have you read anything by Marx?
The answer is usually “I don’t need to.”
Or apparently not replying at all, in this case. My favorite is the Jordan Peterson response, though: “I had over 6 months to prepare for a debate on this topic after decades of claiming to be an expert and showed up to admit I could only be bothered to read his manifesto”
That logic lol. It’s like me saying my american friend read mein kampf and love hitler, thus all american is nazi.
At what age are you supposed to stop hoping for a more equal world and start cheering on the billionaires destroying the planet? I’m in my 40’s and I might be a little behind.
Stalin and Mao are not the kind of people you follow when you want a more equal world or you’re seriously misguided.
That’s why real lefties don’t defend them.
A tankie is every bit as real of a leftist as an anarchist or demsoc imo. Tankies suck balls, no question. But to say that they’re not true leftists is kinda dumb. A typical convinced tankie well and truly believes that they are fighting for equality and the path towards communism.
Uh huh.
Explain where socialism is best enacted through genocide, imperialism, and the creation of a rigid and often hereditary heirarchy.
I don’t think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don’t even want socialism at all.
They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism.
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