Formula E team fires its AI-generated female motorsports reporter, after backlash: “What a slap in the face for human women that you’d rather make one up than work with us.”::px-captcha

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    10 months ago

    Even this headline is spin! They fired no one, they just turned it off.

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    10 months ago

    As a fan of Formula E, I can say with certainty that it’s the most faux-progressive sport I’ve ever seen.

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      10 months ago

      I love the actual product, but loathe the attempts at feigning some sort of progressivism that always manages to put on blast the fact that its founder was a center-right Spanish politician.

      Also, Hazel Southwell is literally right there.

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        In the sense that it uses progressive language, without actually being progressive in action. It’s advertised as being socially progressive while racing in Dubai, eco friendly while transporting supplies on oil burning ships, and being innovative despite blocking battery development.

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            10 months ago

            Okay, so motorsports have always been considered an innovator in automobile development. Disc brakes, seatbelts, headlights, and anti-lock braking all come from motorsports, and thus the claim put forward by car manufacturers “motorsports innovations make regular driving safer/better” has merit.

            In FE, the cars have regulations saying what parts can be modified and improved, and what can’t. One of those things that can’t be modified on the racecars are the batteries (and powertrains). So no smaller batteries, or more powerful batteries, or different battery casing, or different material components. Every car on the track has been using the same type of 600kw lithium batteries since the beginning of Gen-3 cars.

            Manufacturers want to use motorsports as a test bed for trying out new parts and ideas too expensive or risky to put into a production car, so the FIA choosing to block manufacturers from making more efficient batteries for FE means that there’s no real innovation going on, despite FE writing the word “innovation” on tons of articles and promotional material.

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                Oh nothing. The FIA has actually made promises to open up battery development back during the Gen-2 cars. Manufacturers and fans are still waiting though.

                They can’t even really claim it’s something that would financially affect the teams, since the batteries and powertrains aren’t made in-house. They’re made by Maserati, Porsche, and Mercedes.

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                  They’re made by Maserati, Porsche, and Mercedes.

                  Maybe they don’t want Chinese manufacturers showing everyone that they are 20 years ahead on battery technology that everyone else.

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                10 months ago

                The only two possible reasons I can think of are to try and keep on top of costs, and to keep performance of the teams as close as possible.

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      10 months ago

      It’s kind of hilarious as a sport. There’s so many Mario Kart inspired rules and, not even sure what to call them, but things like the boost when you drive over the special spot on the road.

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    10 months ago

    We all know the sole purpose was that the fanbase can sexually harass her freely without actually having to deal with handling the misogyny.

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    10 months ago

    People are often hard to work with. They need lunch breaks. They poop. They get tired and cranky. They get sick and break limbs skiing. They need home and family time.

    So if every job wasn’t also starvation insurance (because as a society we don’t care much about our unemployed human population) every automated job would be a good thing.

    So all we need is robust UBI and guarantees to everyone their basic needs will be met and met well (e.g. a home rather than a cot in a bunker) and then we can automate away.

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    10 months ago

    Slightly off topic, but the fact that I’m now seeing some Formula One/E news make it’s way onto Lemmy is a good sign to me that this place is starting to grow more and more.

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    10 months ago

    Trump vs Niki Hayley…20:6? Trump vs AI Super Niki…2:98!

    Yey! All hail first woman president Super Niki! I mean Jail! Not hail!

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    you’d rather make one up than work with us

    Yes? It’s nothing personal, human women, but once “having a pleasant feminine voice” is something that machines can do more efficiently than humans, why shouldn’t those machines be given the job?

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      10 months ago

      You’ve got bigger problems than labour relations when “having a pleasant feminine voice” is the success criteria you use to measure the performance of a reporter.

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        Sure, you just have to hire a team of AI engineers who’s job it is to train the AI on thousands of races and test it and test it and test it. Definitely cheaper than just hiring one human to be an announcer.

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          Not really. The real power of these LLMs is their ability to understand the written word, context and emotion then generate text based on it.

          Bing AI uses search to get its sources and its training to summarise them. It doesn’t need to be trained on the specific things it’s generating off. It just needs to understand them.

          Anyone who used ChatGPT to get information and not generate text was using it wrong. This is a very common misconception.

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      Not on TV. Female AI is for house and assistant chores only, like Siri and Alexa. At least no one’s ever complained about that before…

      Worst part is if they made it a guy, they’d get more flack. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

      It’s clear they need to make it a golden retriever with subtitles and the project can keep going.

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        It’s not reasonable to expect regular people to all have executive assistants. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. We’re talking about a job that a real person could perform, working for a multi-billion dollar company, not an AI that can mark stuff in your calendar for you.

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        You do realize those voice assistants have male voices too? Just switch it over.

        As for the reason why they are female by default, iirc they did some studies on it and it turns out people subconsciously trusted them less and especially men were likely to disregard their advice.

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      10 months ago

      As a fan of F1, and I casually watch FE, I’d much rather have human commentators, thanks.

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      10 months ago

      What about all the dudes that don’t get a shot either way because they’re not an attractive woman? Is it a slap in the face to them?

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      I feel like AI haters really struggle to grasp the concept of an actually competent AI that can do something better than a human would. The counter-arguments always seem to come from the assumption that this will never be the case but that’s changing the subject.

      If there is an AI doctor that has a proven track record of being better at diagnosing illesses than any human doctor then I’ll rather consult the AI. I’m fully aware how “unfair” it is for the human doctor but I don’t want to have to deal with misdiagnosis just because I wanted to show my support for human doctors and knowingly going for the inferior option.

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        The flip side is that the company that owns the doctor AI doesn’t want you to use it because their 95% successful diagnosis means every 1 in 20 cases they have the opportunity to get sued.

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          Well presumably they would be using it to replace a doctor with even worse success rate so I’m not sure why wouldn’t they want me to use that instead.

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            Legislation is always 2+ decades behind technology. Legal protections are in place for doctors making wrong decisions with the information they have on hand as long as it’s to the best of their ability. The same protection doesn’t extend to someone’s brand new AI doctor.

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      Indeed, absurd argument (rather feeling) that should have no place in such a discussion. But it was no discussion. It was feelings making them cancel it because they want zero potential for bad news, regardless of how right they would be.

      Image if translators argued the same about the various apps. Laughable.