Assuming an agreement is made, I hope Ukraine is allowed to join NATO at the expense of officially surrendering the occupied territory, including Crimea. It would be a huge win for Russia but at least Ukraine could get a security guarantee that’s worth a shit and that Russia wouldn’t break in a decade. I also hope the sanctions aren’t let up. Russia’s economy is doing excellent after all right? We would be doing them a favor by keeping the sanctions in place
Yep. Ukraine leaves to rebuild a war torn country, Russia would spend that same time to rebuild their army just to try invading again… just like what they did between 2014 and 2022.
Unless Ukraine has the means to repel Russia themselves, losing territory to a stronger opponent while lacking diplomatic relations to back you up is just part of how the world works.
If Ukraine really wants someone to blame, they can blame whoever kept them from joining NATO sooner.
Your statements appear wrong to me and to most people here, according to the votes. This, contrast with the fact that most (like you) do hope Ukraine will join NATO.
Yeah, I mean obviously I want the aid to Ukraine to keep going but that’s not happening to the extent that it needs to. Unless Ukraine completely repels Russia from its land, they’re not going to get to make any meaningful peace agreement with Putin. It’s just so frustrating that we aren’t sending them what they need. It always arrives in too little quantity and far too late.
Ukraine is the centre of what was the USSR’s military-industrial complex, their engineers brought the USSR to space, heck they’re bringing the ESA to space (Vega uses Ukrainian engines). They’re currently demonstrating that they’re fierce and creative fighters.
And even if that all was not the case: So what. Albania isn’t exactly a military powerhouse. Their geographic position isn’t strategically important, either. Do you propose to kick them out?
Assuming an agreement is made, I hope Ukraine is allowed to join NATO at the expense of officially surrendering the occupied territory, including Crimea. It would be a huge win for Russia but at least Ukraine could get a security guarantee that’s worth a shit and that Russia wouldn’t break in a decade. I also hope the sanctions aren’t let up. Russia’s economy is doing excellent after all right? We would be doing them a favor by keeping the sanctions in place
That would literally just be rewarding Russia and encouraging them to invade more sovereign nations.
Yep. Ukraine leaves to rebuild a war torn country, Russia would spend that same time to rebuild their army just to try invading again… just like what they did between 2014 and 2022.
Except they have not ever committed to military action against a member of NATO.
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Unfortunately, this is true.
Unless Ukraine has the means to repel Russia themselves, losing territory to a stronger opponent while lacking diplomatic relations to back you up is just part of how the world works.
If Ukraine really wants someone to blame, they can blame whoever kept them from joining NATO sooner.
Your statements appear wrong to me and to most people here, according to the votes. This, contrast with the fact that most (like you) do hope Ukraine will join NATO.
Yeah, I mean obviously I want the aid to Ukraine to keep going but that’s not happening to the extent that it needs to. Unless Ukraine completely repels Russia from its land, they’re not going to get to make any meaningful peace agreement with Putin. It’s just so frustrating that we aren’t sending them what they need. It always arrives in too little quantity and far too late.
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Ukraine is the centre of what was the USSR’s military-industrial complex, their engineers brought the USSR to space, heck they’re bringing the ESA to space (Vega uses Ukrainian engines). They’re currently demonstrating that they’re fierce and creative fighters.
And even if that all was not the case: So what. Albania isn’t exactly a military powerhouse. Their geographic position isn’t strategically important, either. Do you propose to kick them out?
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Ukrainians destroyed more Russian equipment than all nato countries combined, how are they even close to useless?