• Oderus@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Germany knows a thing or two about genocide so it’s surprising they’re not seeing it in Gaza.

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      10 months ago

      Germany is so ashamed of its history that no Israel atrocity can change that.

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        10 months ago

        They’re not ashamed. Germans still hate Jews. The initial plan Hitler had was to move all the Jews to Madagascar.

        The Madagascar Plan was a plan proposed by the Nazi German government to forcibly relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar. Franz Rademacher proposed the idea in June 1940

        The Zionist thing is an easy excuse to make the Palestinians responsible for German crimes. Germany doesn’t want israelis moving back.

        The second reason Germany is simping this hard is that Germany wants Intel, which is an israeli company, to build more chip factories there. Thus they have to bow their heads to Zionists. Buy AMD kids.

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        10 months ago

        Germany takes plenty of positions against Israel. You’re confusing us with the US.

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      10 months ago

      I think they are calling them weak. I figured it would be but when you put it in comparison we are almost there but not quite to the same level

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      10 months ago

      Western countries records of respecting human rights are nothing but performative theater. They are part of the same imperialist empire. of which they all benefit from.

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        10 months ago

        Sure are painting a lot of people with the one brush there buddy. I’ve never invaded anyone.

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          If you live in a western rich country, than you have definitely benefited directly or indirectly from the imperialist empire, the western coalition has invaded many countries, ousted many governments, installed puppets governments everywhere there interests are at stake, and are keeping the weak developping countries in marching orders, if anyone of them would dare misalign they threaten them with bringing “democracy and freedom” …

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            10 months ago

            Are all the citizens responsible for all the actions of their governments?

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              10 months ago

              Well if you claim that democracies embody the will of the people, than all the citizens bare responsibility of their governments, except those who actively oppose such policies with political action but are outnumber by the majority.

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            10 months ago

            My country did none of that so fuck off with your all as bad as each other shite. My history is clean and if I benefit from speaking English or whatever you’re going to say I’d consider it a silver lining and not a benefit of imperialism.

    • It’s exactly because they know a thing or two they’re not willing to throw the term around willy-nilly

      What’s happening in Gaza right now isn’t a genocide. It’s awful, they are commiting warcrimes, but not a genocide.

      Funnily enough, what’s happening in the West Bank has better Chances of being classified as a Genocide. Yet all those “Experts” on the Internet never talk about that. They only see civilian houses blowing up, then they take the worst word they know, “genocide”, and call it that.

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        10 months ago

        Do you think Palestinians in Gaza will ever be able to return home, in the near or far future, without being killed under the excuse of “it’s an evacuation zone, so they must be Hamas”?

        And do you think the “evacuation zone” will ever stop expanding before it encompasses the entirety of Gaza?

        Because I’m pretty sure forcefully displacing a people from their home and not allowing them to return qualifies as genocide.

        • Do you think Palestinians in Gaza will ever be able to return home, in the near or far future

          absolutely. Not in the near, but in the Medium-to-Long-Term (5mo+) they will be able to return to the Strip.

          Israel is not interested in a prolongued Conflict. I say Nettanyahus Successor will try to mend things with the Gazans once they weakened Hamas enough.

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            I have a few questions:

            1. Where will they return to with the whole strip flat?

            2. When will the “evacuation zone” stop expanding? Because as far as I’m aware more of the strip is in the zone than out of it.

            3. Do you think a power hungry, violent asshole who has stated he will ignore the world court if he doesn’t like what they decide is interested in the wellbeing of anyone but himself and his elite friends?

            4. How is it okay to force the most populous region to move further and further south (which was also physically impossible in the time allocated) where there is nowhere for them to stay in the interim, because there might be Hamas among them?