I considered deleting the post, but this seems more cowardly than just admitting I was wrong. But TIL something!

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    10 months ago

    Sure if you’re talking about a concept like money, but we’re talking about dollar bills and 100 dollar bills, physical objects. And if you’re talking about physical objects you have to consider material reality, if you’re choosing one or the other the 100 dollar bills are more convinient. Therefore they have more utility, which makes them have a higher value.

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      10 months ago

      I agree. I’m just being a math nerd.

      I was actually discussing this with my wife earlier and her position is that the 1 dollar bills are better because it’s tough to find somebody who’ll split a 100, and 100s don’t work in vending machines.

      I thought the hundreds would be better because you could just deposit them in the bank and use your card, and banks often have limits on how many individual bills you can deposit at once, so hundreds are way better for that.

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      10 months ago

      if you’re talking about physical objects you have to consider material reality

      If you’re considering material reality then you can’t have an infinite amount of it.

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        10 months ago

        That’s a concession of the premise, you obviously can’t have infinite anything, but if you could then the 100s would bring more utility

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          10 months ago

          But the utility is not the issue in the premise.

          “Would you rather have an infinite number of $1 or $100 bills?” Obviously $100 bills, but they are worth the same amount.

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            10 months ago

            If utility isn’t the reason why you’re picking 100s then why would you if they’re the same amount?

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              10 months ago

              Utility is irrelevant to the statement “an infinite number of $1 bills is worth the same amount as an infinite number of $100 bills.”

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                  10 months ago

                  I see I made a mistake by acknowledging your argument, and trying to indicate my understanding there of, before trying to get back to the point at hand that an infinite number of $1 bills is worth the same amount as an infinite number of $100 bills.

                  I won’t make the same mistake again.

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                10 months ago

                What is worth? Would you rather have 500 1s or 5 100s? You already said you’d take the 100s, why? I would take the 100s because I personally value the convenience of 100s more than the 1s, so to me, a single 100 is worth more than 100 1s. Worth doesn’t need to imply the monetary value of the money.

                The convenience/utility makes the 100s worth more even if they’re both valued the same

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                  10 months ago

                  What is worth?

                  Dollar value.

                  Would you rather have 500 1s or 5 100s?

                  Don’t care. They both get deposited at my bank the same.

                  You already said you’d take the 100s, why?

                  An acknowledgement to the point you were making that was a digression from the discussion at hand. My mistake apparently.

                  I would take the 100s because I personally value the convenience of 100s more than the 1s, so to me, a single 100 is worth more than 100 1s.

                  I personally would not accept a Genie wish for either as the mass would create a black hole that would destroy the universe. There is no “practical consideration” when dealing with infinities. Knowing how to work with infinities is useful for complex mathematics, but there is no real world application until you simplify away the infinities.

                  Worth doesn’t need to imply the monetary value of the money.

                  It very much does imply the monetary value of the money. It can mean other things if you want to define it as such, but you need to before hand in such a case. It was not defined differently by OP.