• bradbeattie@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    I have a Switch but have bought maybe 3 games for it tops. Where Steam has user reviews, a super simple refund policy, and frequent deep discounts, Nintendo’s purchasing experience is clearly lacking in a customer-friendly approach.

    Anyone asking for recommendations for their next gaming device, it’s Steam Deck every time.

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      11 months ago

      And Nintendo insists on never discounting certain games. It’s hard to swallow paying $60 for a 5 year old game that I’m only somewhat interested in. Meanwhile steam will let you buy a game like that for $15 bucks. Half the time you buy it and never play it, but just wanted to get it on sale just in case you do find time to give it a go.

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        11 months ago

        Plus most people will already a pretty stacked library day 1 when they get a steam deck. I wouldn’t have to buy another game for years or even a decade if I were to get a steam deck just based on what I still have on my backlog.

        And if I buy a game for the steam deck I can still play it on my pc whenever

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        11 months ago

        Super Mario Run on iOS is 4+ years old and still $9.99 to unlock all of the worlds.

        No thanks, Nintendo. Learn from Steam and have some sales.

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        11 months ago

        In my region, a full price switch game costs over $90 including taxes. A measly SIX games would cost more than a steam deck.

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      11 months ago

      Don’t forget a more user friendly digital download SHARING system as well… We tried “SHARING” a digital download switch game a few times… Steam is far more forgiving. Switch wins on swapping carts however, if you stick to physical purchases for sharing.

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      11 months ago

      Switch has Zelda. It’s the only reason we own a switch and the only game we play on it

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        Except you can play that same Zelda game on a Steam Deck 60fps with no frame drops, I never play my Switch anymore now that I have my Switch library on my Steam Deck

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          Ok, so ignoring the legality of emulating switch games (it’s not exactly simple to dump a switch game without owning your own switch), are you seriously going to claim that someone who wants to play Zelda and Mario legally should get a deck? I own both, I love the steam deck, it doesn’t play switch games 60fps, no fuss, it plays an emulated version of cemu breath of the wild at 60 fps and I would tell anyone who wants to play Nintendo games to get a Nintendo console. Heck, PC games which are verified on deck aren’t always great to play on the hardware, especially older games that weren’t made in mind for consoles. The second thing I bring up is how freaking large the steam deck and other pc handhelds are versus something like the switch. If you’re on a couch or hotel room, no big deal, but on the train? In a coach seat on a plane? That size does matter. I pretty much the deck the same places I’d bring a laptop, while the switch is much more a portable bring anywhere type toy. Regardless, this isn’t a battle, I own a console too (gaming pc’s in my opinion are dying out due to cost and lack of exclusives), but buy a steam deck because you want to play pc games, not because you want to play other consoles games - unless you’re someone with the inclination to want to tweak and configure emulators.

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    People buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games. As good as the steam deck is (and I really do want one, but GabeN has decided that Switzerland does not exist), you ain’t going to be playing Splatoon on it.

    Not everything has to be a contest. Let people like things that they like.

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      11 months ago

      Maybe not Splatoon specifically, but switch-exclusive single-player games run comparably or better on switch emulators running on the deck

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        Steam exclusive content of games isn’t a good thing. Moreover, it’s only a limitation of current technology until better hardware and software are developed. The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.

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          Steam exclusive content

          great, because nobody asked for that anyways.

          The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.

          and the Deck 2 will be better than the Switch 2. what’s your point?

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            Deck 2 won’t be better because just like last time people like you overhype it to science fiction. It’s not a PC that plays games, its a Linux based operating system that requires Proton. You people falsely believe Valve is promoting Linux. Hardware specs aren’t good enough and cheap Valve doesn’t want to pay more.

            Nintendo has proven to create handheld devices before Valve was a company. Valve doesn’t care about gaming, Nintendo cares about their games.

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      Right. Nintendo would’ve gone the way of Sega but they’re so good at developing software they get people to buy their hardware.

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      you don’t get it, this is Gabens quest to save all the whales. it’s like a reverse Moby dick.

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      Uuuh… You could. Single player for the most part, but Splatoon can be played on the Deck.

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    The SD had the Switch’s entire library the day it came out, no fucking shit it has thousands more games from the day it came out even ignoring that

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      How does a deck perform for Steam games though?

      Edit - oh fuck me, I was sleepy - I meant Switch games.

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        Really good! However, battery management is indeed a thing.

        Graphically demanding games, such as Phoenix Point, run well but drain battery fast.

        Other games that look good, but somehow aren’t as demanding, last much longer.

        Battery lasts the longest, of course, with 2D games.

        Anyway, here’s my experience with the Steam Deck (not OLED):

        • Phoenix Point lasts just 2 hours.
        • Civ 6 lasts about 3 hours, more on smaller maps with less NPCs.
        • Emulated Breath of the Wild lasts for 4 to 5 hours.
        • Hollow Knight nearly 7 hours.
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          I’m so sorry, I was sleepy when typing out my question. I meant to ask how well it ran Switch games! But thank you for this, I have recently ordered mine and I’ll keep this in mind!

          Also have you tried any other games apart from BotW?

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            Yes I have.

            • Mario Wonder runs pretty bad. Frequent stuttering and microfreezing. I’m pretty sure that’ll be fixed in Yuzu at some point but right now it’s “meh”.

            • Rayman Legends Definitive Edition runs perfectly. Absolutely flawless. Also very kind on the battery life, lasting nearly as long as Hollow Knight.

            • Mariokart 8 Delux runs really smooth as well. Haven’t encountered any real issues, but it’s more demanding on battery life, so expect it to last around like Breath of the Wild.

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          Are you using the switch (Yuzu) or Wii U (cemu) version of BOTW? Wondering if I should make the “switch”

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        Ok if you’re realistic. Low-medium and you’ll have an hour. Drop performance down for 2D games.

        Source: I don’t have one yet.

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    11 months ago

    Any x86 handheld console always has more games than the Switch including the Switch games

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      Especially given the fact that Switch emulation is running full speed on x86. So it is literally impossible for the Switch to ever have more games than Steam Deck.

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    The Switch has worse specs than most phones these days, literally a phone is better. And don’t get me started on the eShop, it’s so bad.

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      Never understood why so many people supported the closing of eShop for 3DS, I get the feeling all Nintendo consoles are on a timer at this point. Never had the same feeling with the Deck, which can be easily modified to not be chained to the Steam storefront regardless. You’d have to jailbreak Nintendo consoles to gain any semblance of independent functionality, possibly bricking the darn thing in the process.

      Owned both 3DS and Switch to play Pokemon, but I sure as hell ain’t getting whatever’s next.

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    I’ve have a switch but steam deck is one of the best purchases I have ever made. It’s such a beautiful device. Not to mention you can change the internal storage and add expandable storage. The biggest advantage steam deck has is its community.

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      Storage expansion is great. I got a 2tb SSD form AliExpress for ~160CAD and put in a 1tb SD card. I can just install whatever I want and never worry about shaders or games using to much space.

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    11 months ago

    but which platform has more shovelware to sift through? Using the Nintendo store feels like swimming through a literal shit hole that someone dumped a tiny bag of gemstones into.

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    11 months ago

    I only have a Switch and want a Steam Deck, I’m not gonna lie, emulation is one of the biggest selling points to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      If you only want to emulate older consoles on-the-go, you can get a hackable switch on eBay for $150, or an Anbernic handheld for less.

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        I’ve got an anbernic RG351 and it runs everything from early N64 an older flawlessly, good battery life, decent screen and fairly good buttons, really good if you’re out and about because it’s nice and compact. I’ve also got a Steam Deck that does everything else and as a home console.

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        Even better just get a cheap smartphone and one of those controllers that snap on the back like the kishi or whatever. My very mid range phone runs anything up to 3DS smoothly.

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    11 months ago

    Still only 24 hours in a day

    My steam library is massive and I’ve got tons of games I’ll never play.

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    11 months ago

    Apples and oranges comparison. The Steam Deck is PC-adjacent hardware that can access a back catalogue of thousands of games going back twenty years, well before the Steam Deck was even an idea.

    The Switch is a game console with its own ecosystem, and it has existed for six years. Games have to be developed specifically for it. The only thing both have in common is that they’re handhelds.