• LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        I feel like we have a lot more obstacles in our way than the French did during their revolution. Most notably heavily armed militaries, inscrutable governmental ties with wealthy elites, and a large fraction of the population conditioned into thinking that our current system is infallible.

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          11 months ago

          It was the same when most of Europe’s monarchies were dethroned. Heavily armed militaries were there, it was the time of the Great War after all. Inscrutable government ties? Half the monarchs were cousins, the ruling class was essentially one family. A large fraction of our population thinking that the system is infallible? Divine right of kings, everyone was religious as hell, and you literally had your church in your ID cards.

          The system still rolled over when millions of armed men came home from the war, their friends brutally killed for four years, their country which they were taught to sacrifice for debased, themselves having lived in a trench for four years.

          The thing is, systems where the few accumulate ever more resources by taking it from the many is not sustainable. Of course, it seems we’ll give up democracy before giving up capitalism. The thing is, democratic traditions are the difference between what happened to the Windsors and the Romanovs when the inevitable change comes. It also is the difference between the experience of the common man living in England vs Russia.

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        11 months ago

        The French did it before, so we can do the same

        And pray tell what happened consequently, good sir?

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      11 months ago

      Diminishing the central state to its most minimal form: judicial system, police and military. Everything else should be based on freedom.

      Guillotine the state! I wouldn’t say absolute no to some semi-accidental deaths of business leaders who grossly abused the state via lobbying etc while doing this transition, frankly. But not primarily because they’re billionaires or capitalist, rather because they’re scumbags.

      (It’s possible that all current billionaires became billionaires because of abusing government lobbying, but I don’t know)