In computer security it always depends on your thread model. WhatsApp is supposed to be end-to-end-encrypted, so nobody can intercept your messages. However: Once someone flags a message as inappropriate, this gets circumvented and messages get forwarded to Meta. This is only supposed to happen if it’s flagged. So unlikely in a family group. I trust this actually works the way Meta tells us, though I can’t be sure because I haven’t dissected the app and this may change in the future. And there is lawful intercept.
Mind that people can download or screenshot messages and forward them or do whatever they like with the pictures.
And another thing: If you have Sync enabled, Google Photos will sync pictures you take with their cloud servers and it’ll end up there. And Apple does the same with their iCloud. As far as I know both platforms automatically scan pictures to help fight crime and child exploitation. We aren’t allowed to know how those algorithms work in detail. I doubt a toddler in clothes or wrapped in a blanket will trigger the automatism. They claim a ‘high level of accuracy’. But people generally advise not to take pictures of children without clothes with a smartphone. Bad incidents have already happened.
Edit: Apple seems to have pushed for cloud scanning initially, but currently that doesn’t happen any more. They have some on device filters as far as I understand.
Interception by a third party is highly unlike, as the transport layer of basically everything is encrypted nowadays.
What is left unknown is what can Meta do once the file is on their servers, as you’ll have to trust Zuckk’s word and Zuckk’s encryption
If Meta would really not know your Messages and encryption Keys, they would not be able to recover Every single one oft your messages even if you forgot your Password.
Last time I needed that they could not. They needed either the backup (which is less secure and private but your choice whether to use or not, I think it uploads to Google Drive or so?) Or another device that is still working that is linked to the same account.
you have to trust that Meta doesn’t do anything with your pictures before they are sent and that the person you’re sending them to doesn’t backup their whatsapp stuff to google.
By safe I mean about privacy, if there’s possibility that someone can “intercept” the photos of the child. Sorry if I didn’t explain it well
In computer security it always depends on your thread model. WhatsApp is supposed to be end-to-end-encrypted, so nobody can intercept your messages. However: Once someone flags a message as inappropriate, this gets circumvented and messages get forwarded to Meta. This is only supposed to happen if it’s flagged. So unlikely in a family group. I trust this actually works the way Meta tells us, though I can’t be sure because I haven’t dissected the app and this may change in the future. And there is lawful intercept.
Mind that people can download or screenshot messages and forward them or do whatever they like with the pictures.
And another thing: If you have Sync enabled, Google Photos will sync pictures you take with their cloud servers and it’ll end up there.
And Apple does the same with their iCloud.As far as I know both platforms automatically scan pictures to help fight crime and child exploitation. We aren’t allowed to know how those algorithms work in detail. I doubt a toddler in clothes or wrapped in a blanket will trigger the automatism. They claim a ‘high level of accuracy’. But people generally advise not to take pictures of children without clothes with a smartphone. Bad incidents have already happened.Edit: Apple seems to have pushed for cloud scanning initially, but currently that doesn’t happen any more. They have some on device filters as far as I understand.
Interception by a third party is highly unlike, as the transport layer of basically everything is encrypted nowadays. What is left unknown is what can Meta do once the file is on their servers, as you’ll have to trust Zuckk’s word and Zuckk’s encryption
But the Signal people also say the e2e is trustworthy, no (Whatsapp, I mean)?
If Meta would really not know your Messages and encryption Keys, they would not be able to recover Every single one oft your messages even if you forgot your Password.
Last time I needed that they could not. They needed either the backup (which is less secure and private but your choice whether to use or not, I think it uploads to Google Drive or so?) Or another device that is still working that is linked to the same account.
It’s end to end encrypted so they can’t see it then. What they could do is access it once it’s on your device and unencrypted potentially.
Or through unencrypted by default backup. It goes on Google drive and there’s no guarantee that it doesn’t go to Meta.
No , but they will get the meta data. But image should be secure. But then your recepient download it , upload it to Google cloud and so on
You can delete or alter the metadata with multiple available EXIF editor apps.
Yea GOS camera does it automatically as well. I was thinking of the message data. Size , time, contacts etc
If someone is able to intercept WhatsApp messages, they aren’t using it to look at photos of your baby they’re using it to spy on government officials
you have to trust that Meta doesn’t do anything with your pictures before they are sent and that the person you’re sending them to doesn’t backup their whatsapp stuff to google.
It’s more secure to use Signal