• DragonTypeWyvern
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      11 months ago

      Name something more conservative than betraying humanity by choosing willful ignorance and compliance to your oppressors.

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        11 months ago

        Sounds like every republican and Democrat.

        There are no political statements in the matrix. It’s a movie about being trans.

        When the movie was made, it was both people on the right and left who were shitty to the queer community. Trust me.

        Things weren’t as polarized as they were today. I remember. I was 15 when I saw it in theaters.

        But okay, I guess it’s a big movie bashing the right, instead of society as a whole.

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          11 months ago

          Things were just as polarized. They cancelled The Dixie Chicks and French Fries within 2 years of the movie coming out. BTW I was 19 when the film came out, and was paying attention as I had been in university for 3 years at that point.

          Either way, I was using the most basic definition of a conservative that there is. Someone that wants to maintain the status quo. Cypher fits that definition. Republicans and Democrats don’t exist in the real world of The Matrix, so I wasn’t using a political definition.

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            11 months ago

            No, he doesn’t. He doesn’t care about the damn status quo.

            He wants to feel important and he wants an easy life. That’s it. He has no political or social motivations beyond

            “I don’t wanna remember a thing, and I want to be someone important… like an actor.”

            Cypher is the worst kind of asshole: One who doesn’t care about a damn thing besides his own personal gain.

            Things weren’t just as polarized. You are intentionally leaving out a HUGE culture shift in the people between The Matrix and the Dixie Chicks being canceled. And if you didn’t understand that the world WAS different, even though there was just a few years apart, then you are DEFINITELY a child lying about their age.

            No one who was alive for both those incidents think they occurred in the same vein of history.

            Dixie chicks were post 9/11, if you’re going to leave out that VERY important detail when talking about the times, then you don’t understand how that day was basically the beginning of the shitstorm we have today.

            Matrix was before all that. And yes… things can seriously change within just a couple years.

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          11 months ago

          it was a joke, there is no need to take it seriously. I have no real interest in discussing how closely aligned to any given real political view points fictional characters from a 20 year old movie are.

          happy Christmas