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      Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

      (I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

      Cue the apple hater replies, this will be fun.

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        Mac was fantastic in the '80s

        Mac was great in the "90s

        Mac was good in the '00s

        Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s

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          Ok but it’s the 20s and I want to run apps that are only on new chip MacOS computers and i don’t have one what do I do, saaave me linukz

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            ARM compatibility is still shit. All actually useful desktop apps are still primarily x86-64, the compatibility layer Rosetta is hit or miss, everything is proprietary and expensive, and Apple decided the Pro model should only have 8GB for a shit ton of money. Apple is overpriced trash in the '20s.

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              I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone refer to the 2020s as the 20s. I’ve kind of been waiting for it.

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        (I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

        Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

        Putting all my legitimate Apple/MacOS concerns/arguments aside, how can you declare a product as “Worth every penny” when you yourself have not used it for an extensive period of time? Attempted to integrate it into your workflow?

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    This flowchart is wrong.

    If I follow this reasoning, I should be running windows. I am not running windows, Ergo, either it is incorrect or I am incorrect. And I refuse to believe I’m incorrect.

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      That doesn’t mean it is not a great meme!

      Just look at all the butt hurt comments complaining about the content :)

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    I had a friend about 25 years ago who was very much into Quake Arena. His gaming setup ran on BSD. Now that I’ve been gaming on Linux for several years, I’ve really come to appreciate how much work it must have been to get that setup running smoothly in the late 90s. He died a couple of years ago. I sometimes wish I could call him up and get some advice.

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    This one didn’t age quite as poorly as some of the others. I have gotten to the point of generally preferring Linux gaming now though. Bsd is still a bit lacking for my general computing but opnsense on my router is one of those ‘where has this been all my life?’ things.

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      OpnSense wasn’t quite there yet a few years ago. Now, it’s golden 👍! Don’t know why people still prefer pfSense over OpnSense, it’s so much easier to set up and maintain.

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        I didn’t try pfsense but it sounded like opnsense suited me better and I have had no reason to change so far. It has also made managing my self host stuff so much easier but a lot of it is pending being redone with more future proofing.

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    Linux gaming is better than Windows imo. No tracking, random bsod, shit just either works or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t, you make it work.

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      Eh? I don’t get BSODs because my compositor simply crashes (requiring a system restart, as the compositor will crash again if restarted) or my graphics driver hangs. Can’t remember the last time I bluescreened on Windows except for when I was testing an unstable RAM overclock.

      I won’t say Linux gaming is better than Windows, but I will say it’s good enough that I don’t miss Windows at all even after a few years.

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        Hm, weird! I never experiences crashes, except if I leave my pc on for days on end

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          It’s highly specific to your setup and the game/software. Most games aren’t a problem. Just the occasional random issue, like in WoW certain locations insta-crash my graphics driver.

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            That’s so odd. Yea, I do agree it’s the setup. Lots of people mix ram sticks, weird drivers, etc.

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              My setup is pretty clean hardware wise (Zen 3, matched RAM, stable/no overclocking, 6800xt), mainline mesa drivers, only thing that’s really unstable is wlroots-git / sway-git. Which is sometimes the problem, and other times it’s mesa. I also have 3x 1440p monitors, 240/120/120Hz, so if there’s any throughput-related bug I’ll probably run into it. Being on Arch I’ll probably also run into bugs related to updates in dynamically linked libraries fairly early, sometimes before they’re fixed.

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                I also run arch and xfce4, having more than 1 monitor fucks with my refresh rates. Also, your setup sounds pretty nice

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        I do. Last Monday between 8-11am. But on a school PC. 64-bit Windows 10 Pro doesn’t seem to play well with slow ancient 80GB HDD, ancient entry-level single-core CPU and 1GiB of RAM leaving just 45MiB free when nothing else than task manager was open.

        Can’t blame Windows here though. It couldn’t even run Linux Mint XFCE (crashed after opening Firefox). This week I “upgraded” it to Windows 7 SP1. Yes, it’s connected to internet. But don’t worry, we also have Windows XP machines connected to internet.

        Just a funny note: One of the requirements from these computers is that they run the newest version of Cisco Packet Tracer… which requires 4GB of free RAM. Yeah, sure.

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          ancient 80GB HDD, ancient entry-level single-core CPU and 1GiB of RAM

          It couldn’t even run Linux Mint XFCE (crashed after opening Firefox)

          So the biggest limitation for literally anything will be memory. 1GiB is less than anything other than an Ubuntu server VM will handle

          Pro editions of Windows 10 have memory compression which combined with paging will allow it to barely function, but Windows 7 and later will absolutely chug on a single core processor, with 10 basically being unusable due to heavy background processes.

          On Linux it appears you have to really do some heavy customization to get memory compression to work, but you can use zram-config to setup a compressed swap file, so it will be slightly less bad. I suspect this is probably the easiest path to having this computer be capable of loading Firefox and a GUI.

          With all of that said, an 80GB HDD is going to be incredibly slow even by hard drive standards, and a single core processor is going to be missing so many modern instruction sets that everything will be slow as molasses but even worse, it’ll be unreliably slow because certain things that rely on those instructions will chug as it churns through it the hard way, but then other things will zip by normally.

          This PC sounds like an excercise in refusing to let the dead die, which while an entertaining challenge, eventually the only solution will be to make it place for running period-correct software

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      The only time I’ve seen a bsod in the last 10 years was because of faulty RAM that would’ve crashed any OS just as hard.

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        I work in IT and I see them weekly. Most of the time caused by Microsoft updates or people not shutting down their pc for over a week