• Nima@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    of course they are. it’s why I always encourage people not to buy them. they’re awful for the environment, they’re wasteful and they are lower quality than you’d get with most standard rechargeable e-cigarette kits.

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      11 months ago

      I don’t vape, but I can’t imagine they’re cheaper than re-usable vaping devices in the long run either.

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        11 months ago

        oh my goodness yes. I couldn’t imagine buying a disposable every time I ran out.

        that would possibly be just as expensive as smoking regular cigarettes.

        I just use a little pod system that has replaceable coil heads. it was maybe 60 total because I bought two batteries. but I’ve not needed a replacement battery for my personal vape yet. Just have been replacing (or reusing) my coil heads.

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        11 months ago

        I do vape. The long-term reusable vapes are a LOT more expensive than the disposable ones. My current setup cost 100 USD before batteries or coils.

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            11 months ago

            Yes, in the long term you are saving money but if you have 20 bucks but not 100, what vape are you buying? That’s the point I’m making.

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            If you really want long term savings… how about ditch your nicotine habit? That’s what - $1,500 per year? $100,000 over your lifetime?

            Oh, and medical bills on top of that. Hard to estimate that, but it could be more.

            I can think of something better to spend $100,000 on. Slot machines at a Casino would be a better option for example.

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              It’s not habit, it’s an addiction. Telling people to just quit smoking or vaping as if it’s that easy is ridiculous. People spend their whole lives trying to give up nicotine.

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              I spend maybe $60 a year on vaping and I do it a lot. Key is though, mix your own juice and build your own coils.

              A premade coil costs a few bucks. Replacing the cotton and wire in a diy coil is maybe a nickel. A bottle of premade juice is $20 these days where I am. Mixing my own costs at most, a dollar and that’s if I use more expensive flavor additives.

              I won’t pretend it’s good for you, but if you’re gonna do it, no sense in half assing it and spending way more than you need. Plus it’s fun to experiment with new custom flavors.

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                Juice is sooooo easy to make too.

                Where do you get flavors nowadays? I have a ton on backup from years back but when I looked online, prices at my normal places seem insane. I mainly need cap sweet strawberry and vanilla custard v2 (the one without diacetyl or whatever)

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                  11 months ago

                  I’ve had good luck with nicotine giant, but pretty much everywhere has stock issues. They definitely carry both of those flavors but no stock at the moment.

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              That’s absolutely flat out wrong and honestly concerning.

              For a start nicotine addiction (vaping) has not been proven to have any long term health strain on the medical system. To say having a gambling problem is better is just crazy.

              You realise the difference between nicotine addiction and gambling addiction right?

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          The pod style devices are cheaper than the older style cloud chuckers and most of those now are refillable and not the juul style ones. I’m seeing good ones for $30-$50. The non removable battery gives them less longevity although they’re still significantly more environmentally friendly than disposables. I used a fog machine to quit smoking and I’ve kept using them, but I definitely get why new vapers are largely going with the USB sticks now.

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          Lawl my geekvape aegis was like 35USD and five coils are under 15USD. The coils last 2-3 weeks or more. The battery lasts FOREVER before needing a recharge.

          I make my own juice so that’s free.

          It was even cheaper using a SMPL mech mod and wrapping my own coils, but I got lazy. Now my 16+ 18650s go to my hobbyist flashlights.

          I don’t know what your setup is, but you prolly overpaid

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        They are not. In many cases they’re the same price or slightly less. If you want a long term refillable, rechargeable vape that comes with spare coils, and is a similar profile to a small disposable, it’s about $40. A similar disposable is about $35.