- "whose role will be to ensure that the “political, regulatory and fiscal frameworks” in the Nordics “support Tesla’s mission.”
LOL. Lets hire 1 person to change the politics in 4 countries to support a foreign private company…
(Also… … The primary point in all the nordic models is that politics shouldn’t interfere in the labour market.)
It’s ridiculously amusing to see the world’s richest man attempting to throw money at a problem that can’t be solved with money. I like it a lot.
Funny thing is it can be fixed with money. If only he gave it to the workers instead of lobbyists.
The workers don’t want money. They want a collective agreement.
Ok honestly the article doesn’t speak of the demands or offers. But anyway, what kind of agreement? That doesn’t really say anything otherwise. I did assume it was a monetary issue since it almost always boils down to more money even when you speak of benefits. More vacation, more sick days, more insurances, more hours, less hours, it all means money in the end.
Thanks for that link it’s very enlightening. But isn’t that just another way of legislating how work contracts are negotiated? In the end what is the issue that prevents the unions to reach a collective agreement with Tesla? I might not have been clear in my first post but that’s more specifically what I meant. There must be some disagreement in the remuneration of workers isn’t it?
The difference in remuneration in this case is only some holidays and health insurance. Not much in monetary value. That’s not the problem.
A collective agreement also gives employees more rights which can be difficult to convert to a fixed price. Rights to negotiate. Rights to know the schedule in advance. Rights to take time off for education. Rights to take days off when you have sick children. Things like paid sick days, maternity and parental leave are also not fully covered by the law alone but requires a collective agreement to function properly.
The only issue preventing the union from reaching an agreement with Tesla is that the CEO of Tesla does not want to sign a collective agreement. I don’t think he even understands what it is.
Thanks for your response.
It’s what I meant. I understand that this negotiation cannot simply be fixed by a single check. Musk continually shows that he’s a lying imbecile but Tesla management knows that if their workforce has the power to decide the terms of their employment, it’s going to hurt their financial growth and that’s unfortunately unacceptable for these leeches. Also the reason people cannot take unpaid (key word) time off, go back to school or have children is because they cannot afford it. Health care and insurance is also expensive when taken from an individual perspective. So of course the employers don’t want to pay for that. So while I did simplify the issue, all of those advantages are actually means to mitigate the cost of living in this dysfunctional and unequal world.
I also want to say that I am 100% in support of the workers. People’s lives are important and there is no businesses without people.
All Tesla will achieve is destroying their reputation. Going after our unions is a boneheaded idea that will never work.
I genuinely don’t understand what Musk considers his leverage here.
It seems like he has… none?
His legal basis is that he thinks he’s right
He lives in the US and like many Americans, believes he can get away with the awful practices he could back home.
Doesn’t even understand the mentality between the populations is completely different.
In Norway, the unions are beloved by all. Union busting just isn’t a thing you can do.
If the John Oliver piece on him is anything to go by, he thinks he’s saving the world.
And if that has to ruin a few thousand people’s work/life balance, it’s worth it.
Plus effective altruism blah blah.
I’m legitimately confused, is he trying to hire a Nordic version of an American lobbyist?
[laugh track]
Sign the collective agreement!
I’d like my millions in cash, please.
Go apply. Who knows? Maybe the job will be yours.
You’d think they’d hire the expert before entering the market?
They did not and it is fucking hilarious. One instance is their spokesperson admits to a jounalist they have no clue at all what is legal and what is not when it comes to getting scabs. Which they 100% tried to get. “But we are only getting swedish scabs, not foreign scabs! Oh, not allowed? Really? Ehhhh…”. Then a letter gets leaked by one of Teslas lobbyists trying to suck up to the minister of labour market (thats a literal translation, not sure what its called in english), and its all like “I dare wish for a short audience with you sire”, basically. Cringe stuff. The minister of labour markets is the party leader of the liberal party, and has the backbone of a bacteria, celebrates working with the far right now because that gives him a minister post. Weakest liberal in the world, and he fucking ignores the letter. Hahahha
It’s perfectly legal to hire scabs in Sweden BTW. Frowned upon, but legal.
Any source? I want to read more.
The interview with the spokesperson: https://da.se/2023/10/teslas-svar-om-strejkbrytare-ar-det-verkligen-olagligt-att-flytta-personal-inom-landet/ On the lobbyist: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/l3PQdM/tesla-forsokte-paverka-regeringen-via-mejl
I mean Twitter currently only has one site reliability engineer so being prepared is clearly not a priority for Musk.
I very badly want this to be true, but I simply cannot imagine it. I think my company might have more SREs than Twitter has employees, but I cannot see how they could do global ops like that. Or even just California ops.
If this sounds familiar, it’s because something similar happened in March, taking down links and images across timelines for around an hour. Twitter blamed that on an “internal change that had some unintended consequences” before Platformer reported the bug occurred because of a mistake by the site’s single remaining site reliability engineer, who was operating solo after Musk instituted massive layoffs.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000170/x-outage-link-error-message-broken
It was true in March at least.
He looks like a poorly aged Squall Leonhart in that thumbnail.
Yet somehow manages to be even more cringe than Squall, which is quite the achievement.
What does a WWE like standoff even mean. Is Roman Reigns going to run in with a steel chair?
So funny watching rich people use poor people’s money against them.
