• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Just from his huge switch pre-stroke from “progressives are the future, vote for me I’m a progressive” to openly complaining people think he’s a progressive and multiple hard right views…

    I really think he’s one of the people that get big personality changes after a stroke.

    My mom went the other way and became a much happier person and more sympathetic to issues facing others, unfortunately the change can happen either way.

    It’s either that, or he pulled a Sinema and just lied about being a progressive to get elected

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      multiple hard right views

      I haven’t seen any hard-right views from Fetterman.

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          His immigration stance is bipartisan. Bernie himself wants to limit immigration. I’m a radical immigration proponent (wanna be a citizen and land in USA soil, I’d make you a citizen), but the reality is my opinion is deeply unpopular.

          Sadly, protectionism is rampant in the Democratic party.

          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/bernie-sanders-immigration-record-explained

          Israel is similarly bipartisan and not hard-right at all. 61% of Democrat voters support Biden’s Israel stance, even if they think Israel is being too aggressive

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/17/democrats-israel-polls/

          I absolutely guarantee you his constituents are higher than national average in favor of the policies he is stating.

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            Your argument for why someone with a D by their name can’t have a far right stance is other people with a D by their name have the same stance?

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              I’m saying that his stance is not “far right,” and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

              Words cease to have any meaning if “far right” just means “things I don’t personally agree with.”

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                    Not hard to define anyone as far right when the defining line in your head is wether or not they chant ‘death to America’ 5+ times a day.

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                I’m saying that his stance is not “far right,” and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

                And I’m saying that decades of the “left party” moving to the right doesn’t make conservative viewpoints suddenly the average and acceptable behavior for any Democrat.

                You’re literally arguing that we hold the party standard to the person furtherest to the right, but they’re not really on the right because a D is next to their name.

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                  And I’m saying that decades of the “left party” moving to the right

                  This is not a thing that has happened.

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                    Look up HWs pressure on Israel and the resulting ceasefire, then look at Bidens statements on Israel and decide for yourself which is further right.

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      I’m wondering if he’s posturing for a future presidential run, and the party has told him that he needs to temper his progressive stances if he ever wants to run as a Democrat.

      If so, definitely a bummer as he seemed like the exact type to not do that.

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      I’m also curious how biased the information they are given during briefings is. I can totally see how the information the people have and the information presented (or not presented) in briefings could influence congresspeoples opinions.

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        Would you even say that about someone who is nicer now, or are they just faking it and their meaner behavior was their true self?

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          He was faking it for office. And the VBNMW crowd ignored the warnings from the left and elected him. Same with Eric Adams, Hakim Jeffries, and a shit ton of others

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        “He changed after a stroke” is just a sad cope to not feel like they got gaslighted by normal politician things. Yeah you bought the same lie they all sell… “noo he had a stroke and changed!!”