• bleph@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Why do you assume that socialist systems won’t also experience a gravitational pull towards fascism? In my opinion that’s universal across all political systems. Also aren’t all extant “state owns the means of production” counties quite fascist?

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      1 year ago

      Wow, you’re really going there. I agree with your thinking. I think of it this way. Would I rather deal with climate change under a capitalist/fascist dictatorship with overconsumption and excess growth. Or would I rather deal with climate change under a tankie dictatorship with a planned economy that limits consumption and growth. I’ll pick the Marxist Leninist one. I’d rather it be an anarcho communist one. But with multiple factions vying for power and trying to control huge populations, that may not be possible.

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        1 year ago

        So, do we agree that climate policy has been mixed-bag both in “The West” and China? (Everybody is touting their green tech while still building new fossil fuel extraction and plants)

        Even if you were sure a tankie government would deliver better on climate change, what are the odds that “the revolution” leads to a full fascist government instead?

        Surely the Right outguns us 10 to 1?

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          1 year ago

          India has said they won’t stop developing until they have the same standard of living as the west. I’m willing to live under fascism if my kids can survive on this planet. That’s not even a difficult choice.