I’m with you, I hate the Likud party, and Hamas is the reason Bibi and them are in power. If you don’t understand that, just do a little historical research.
And blanket stating that the IDF is terrorists is ridiculous. I know it’s hip and trendy right now to say, but that doesn’t make it true.
There wouldn’t even be a Bibi without them. He would have lost, and Perez would have moved forward with two states and Arafat (who Hamas would have also had a harder time removing).
The bottom line is I think we can agree they’re bedfellows, yeah? Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence. They want maximum Palestian casualties in the hopes of expanding the war to more nations than just their allies like Quatar, Iran, and the Houthis.
Never look to me to defend Bibi and the Likud. Many war criminals there I’d like to see taken to the Hague.
Was it the multplie wars the Arab countries launched to destroy Israel, and since they failed, it was an atrocity?
Was it when Rabin was trying hard for two states and Arafat walked away at Oslo?
Or was it when Israel ceded control of territories back to the Palestinians and ended up having the Palestinian security forces firing on them in return?
Or were they just rocket enthusiasts who loves lobbing rockets into Israel’s civilans, and decided to form a club?
Was it around 48 when Muslim and Arab states stole the land and kicked out over 800,000 Jews?
Definitely, Arafat ignoring Perez’s plea to crack down on Hamas helped them grow and ultimately get rid of him. OH, IRONY!
Was it thr suicide bombings and bus bombings campaign right before the election that Pereze was leading in, and after the bombings Bibi won by less than half a percent?
Or was it when two states were going to happen, and Hamas vowed never to split Jerusalem and worked to destroy 2 states for religious reasons?
There it is. Showing your true colors. Pretending to be “open minded” about the subject, or have any interest whatsoever in an honest dialogue.
No sane person with an ounce of critical thinking ability, would read that comment and believe at face value that this is 100% the full story. Everything was unprovoked. Right.
The difference is Hamas ALWAYS has and openly targets civilians. The IDF is trying to minimize them in one of the densest urban war theaters ever (chosen by and forced by Hamas who is co-locating and using it as a shield).
You don’t seem to understand the civilian casualties that would occur if the IDF were intentionally seeking to target civilians. You’d be looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions. And you would NOT risk your troops on the ground with that plan. They have the ability to end this with no troops on the ground, but not while minimizing casualties.
I’m sure the 18,000+ dead civilians appreciate the fact that they weren’t openly trying to be killed. I’m sure the thousands of civilians in detention without charges are also glad to hear that the IDF isn’t doing all this out in the open.
Israel is a genocidal state terrorizing the Palestinian people. It must be broken.
You diminish the term genocide when you misuse it. And yes, Hamas murdering 18,000 civilians by using them as shields and intentionally trying to force as many civilian casualties as possible is horrific. It’s part of why I support hunting them all down and killing them.
So just to make this as clear as possible 100% of the blame is on Hamas and what the IDF is doing is completely understandable and warranted? Is that what you’re saying?
For me, I prefer trying the IDF and Israeli leadership for war crimes, but it seems Israeli supporters are happy to just keep killing and killing and killing some more.
I’d like to see Bibi, many Likud members, and any IDF guilty of war crimes tried, too. But your libel and generalizations says everything about you. The hyperbolic libel just makes you seem like a troll.
I believe it’s so bad that I take great exception when it is tossed around willy nilly and far short of how it should be used. So, just the opposite of what you’re saying.
I’m with you, I hate the Likud party, and Hamas is the reason Bibi and them are in power. If you don’t understand that, just do a little historical research.
And blanket stating that the IDF is terrorists is ridiculous. I know it’s hip and trendy right now to say, but that doesn’t make it true.
I think you have it backwards. Bibi is the reason Hamas is in power.
Maybe there’s some truth to it the way you said it, but this is literally objective reality. He directly supported Hamas.
There wouldn’t even be a Bibi without them. He would have lost, and Perez would have moved forward with two states and Arafat (who Hamas would have also had a harder time removing).
The bottom line is I think we can agree they’re bedfellows, yeah? Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence. They want maximum Palestian casualties in the hopes of expanding the war to more nations than just their allies like Quatar, Iran, and the Houthis.
Never look to me to defend Bibi and the Likud. Many war criminals there I’d like to see taken to the Hague.
Hamas wouldn’t exist without the atrocities of Israel and the IOF – Hamas was created afterwards (long afterwards)
Which atrocities specifically created Hamas?
Was it the multplie wars the Arab countries launched to destroy Israel, and since they failed, it was an atrocity?
Was it when Rabin was trying hard for two states and Arafat walked away at Oslo?
Or was it when Israel ceded control of territories back to the Palestinians and ended up having the Palestinian security forces firing on them in return?
Or were they just rocket enthusiasts who loves lobbing rockets into Israel’s civilans, and decided to form a club?
Was it around 48 when Muslim and Arab states stole the land and kicked out over 800,000 Jews?
Definitely, Arafat ignoring Perez’s plea to crack down on Hamas helped them grow and ultimately get rid of him. OH, IRONY!
Was it thr suicide bombings and bus bombings campaign right before the election that Pereze was leading in, and after the bombings Bibi won by less than half a percent?
Or was it when two states were going to happen, and Hamas vowed never to split Jerusalem and worked to destroy 2 states for religious reasons?
But I’m willing to learn, enlighten me.
There it is. Showing your true colors. Pretending to be “open minded” about the subject, or have any interest whatsoever in an honest dialogue.
No sane person with an ounce of critical thinking ability, would read that comment and believe at face value that this is 100% the full story. Everything was unprovoked. Right.
At this point, what is the difference between Hamas and the IDF? The only difference is the amount of weapons and money behind the 2 groups.
It’s not just the hip thing to say. The IDF is a genocidal tool of the Israeli state terrorizing the Palestinian people.
(difference is Hamas was founded 40 years later)
The difference is Hamas ALWAYS has and openly targets civilians. The IDF is trying to minimize them in one of the densest urban war theaters ever (chosen by and forced by Hamas who is co-locating and using it as a shield).
You don’t seem to understand the civilian casualties that would occur if the IDF were intentionally seeking to target civilians. You’d be looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions. And you would NOT risk your troops on the ground with that plan. They have the ability to end this with no troops on the ground, but not while minimizing casualties.
I’m sure the 18,000+ dead civilians appreciate the fact that they weren’t openly trying to be killed. I’m sure the thousands of civilians in detention without charges are also glad to hear that the IDF isn’t doing all this out in the open.
Israel is a genocidal state terrorizing the Palestinian people. It must be broken.
You diminish the term genocide when you misuse it. And yes, Hamas murdering 18,000 civilians by using them as shields and intentionally trying to force as many civilian casualties as possible is horrific. It’s part of why I support hunting them all down and killing them.
So just to make this as clear as possible 100% of the blame is on Hamas and what the IDF is doing is completely understandable and warranted? Is that what you’re saying?
For me, I prefer trying the IDF and Israeli leadership for war crimes, but it seems Israeli supporters are happy to just keep killing and killing and killing some more.
I’d like to see Bibi, many Likud members, and any IDF guilty of war crimes tried, too. But your libel and generalizations says everything about you. The hyperbolic libel just makes you seem like a troll.
like how supporters of the genocide like to split hairs and quibble over the definition of genocide rather than just admit “genocide is bad”
I believe it’s so bad that I take great exception when it is tossed around willy nilly and far short of how it should be used. So, just the opposite of what you’re saying.
Blood cannot be transfered from one hand to the other…