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1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights: - https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence - https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview 2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them. 3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/) 4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.

Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

  • Sanyanov@lemmy.worldEnglish
    346·
    1 year ago

    People are concerned because there were examples of such things going horribly wrong, most notably with Google and XMPP.

    Way back in the day, Google announced that its Talk messenger will support XMPP, which made decentralization fans very happy - finally, they can communicate with everyone from the comfort of their decentralized instance!..oh.

    Google started implementing features in Talk that are incompatible with XMPP, and then dropped XMPP support altogether, ending up deprecating Talk in favor of Google-only Hangouts. This forced many XMPP users to get into Google’s ecosystem, since the people they contacted through XMPP were mostly just using Google Talk, and they couldn’t be contacted through XMPP any more. As a result, XMPP became worse off than it started and got practically forgotten by all but 1,5 nerds who keep it alive.

    now most of their contacts were in defederated Google to which they now didn’t have access.

    • MrSilkworm@lemmy.worldEnglish
      173·
      1 year ago

      this ☝️. Those of us who remember what happened then, understand the potential dangers of federating with a juggernaut like META.

      We should tread lightly!

    • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      114·
      1 year ago

      As a result, XMPP became worse off than it started and got practically forgotten by all but 1,5 nerds who keep it alive.

      Is it even true? I doubt XMPP was ever popular outside of google’s talk.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        1 year ago

        No it’s not in the least bit, but because people keep reposting that angry blog post by someone who was personally involved and wanted someone to blame so they blamed Google (as if XMPP needed any outside help to fail to catch on, they could do it on their own perfectly fine), people believe that narrative and then get sold on Meta wanting to the same with the Fediverse. As if they could give a flying fart (just like with Google and XMPP).

        • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          If they don’t care about Fediverse they wouldn’t join it in the first place. It isn’t just meaningless but actually harmful - people can gain access to the content on their service without being subject to their extensive surveillance and ads. Add to this all the regular problems with federation.

          As for Google and XMPP, back in the days it was happening Google were playing good guys - they had infamous “don’t be evil” motto, supported various open standards and open-source projects (they still do so to some extend of course). I think for them it wasn’t really an intent to ‘kill’ XMPP, it just XMPP was too dependant on google so they suffered a lot when the company decided to stop federation.