• @randon31415@lemmy.world
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    One piece is the definition of “It’s the journey, not the destination.” Nothing the One Piece could actually be would be worth 23 years worth of content hyping it up.

    (I myself am still a fan of the “one-(head)-piece” that make someone a king, but has to be an item that has been around since the first season theory. Gee, I wonder what that head-piece could be?)

      • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yea luffy’s hat. It’s been a while since I read the Manga, I could have sworn gold d Roger had the straw hat when he got executed but it wasn’t present in the live action show.

        • @Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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          37 months ago

          Roger had the hat in his rookie years. He later gave it to shanks when he got himself a cooler hat (we just recently learned when).

    • @Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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      The one piece is the friends we made along the way.

      Oops sorry, no, it’s the more powerful than God fruit. Still can’t swim in seawater tho.

    • @Patches@sh.itjust.works
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      Gol D Roger had the straw hat way before visiting Laugh tale. That would be worse than “It was all a dream”, or “The one piece was the friends you made along the way”. Both of which have been debunked by Oda.

      Personally I subscribe to the theory that the World Government is whom split the world into 4 pieces during the Void Century. Whatever the One Piece is - it will have the power to rejoin the 4 oceans.

      It would solve every dream of all the Straw Hat Pirates. It would literally make the world One Piece again.

      • @steeznson@lemmy.world
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        Favourite theory I heard was that the One Piece refers to all of the oceans being joined by destroying the strip of land in the centre of the cross shaped continent. They foreshadow it by having every character dream about the different types of fish all co-habiting in the same ocean.

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          Yes that’s what I’m talking about.

          The destruction/removal of the Red Line which is the Mountainois ridges that go North to South round the world. But you would still have the Grand (East to West) that would prevent all 4 oceans from meeting.

      • @Killer@lemmy.world
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        37 months ago

        Well it has to be something that’s “time gated” for lack of a better term, when roger went they were “to early”

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          Could be a log-pose that isn’t synched up.

          Could be the Poneglyphs told of a person who obviously was not Roger. Gol was not the greedy, selfish type.

          Could be that the Poneglyph required something Roger did not have like the Hito Hito no Mi: Nika fruit >!- the same as JoyBoy!<. Maybe it required the power of Poseidon (who wasn’t born yet), Pluto, Uranus, or the Noah ship. Possibly all of them.

          !Roger was dying by the time he saw the One Piece.!<

          There’s a lot of reasons he didn’t, or couldn’t do anything with it.

          • @Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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            27 months ago

            When I read that I thought it was clearly talking about Shirahoshi not being born yet. Never occurred to me it could not be that.

  • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    It should be illegal to recommend shows with more than 1000 episodes.

    If you like it fine, but I saw it and the pacing is straight up horrible even if the worldbuilding is neat.

    There are battles that take literally more than 5 hours without counting the intros and recaps. Even my longest D&D battle was shorter, and those are freaking turn based.

      • @Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world
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        Thank you for posting this. I gave up on the show a week ago around episode 600. Marineford legitimately felt like they spit in my face and told me my time was worthless with how many cuts of “he’s almost there”. The show looks like it gets interesting again afterwards but Marineford legit just sucked the will out of me to continue watching. I was thinking of looking up a fan edit to just get the cliff notes and this is perfect!

        • Ace! _SL/S
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          I feel ya bud, I always wanted to watch One Piece but it was no fun.

          Until I found One Pace. Be sure to use a VPN when downloading via torrent though!

    • @toaster_waffle@lemmy.world
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      Not for nothing, but the manga is paced much better and can be read legally, easily, and digitally for a $3/month subscription. Took me like a month and a half to read the whole thing.

      You’ve made your opinions clear about long recommendations, so take it or leave it. You were interested once before, though, and it might be worth checking out.

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        Yep it’s the same with a lot of these super long series, they are much more digestible and addictive in manga form.

    • @BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
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      This is my same thought with soap operas. Not that I want to but how would you even get into a show that had been running 5 times a week for 30+ years?

    • Khrux
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      57 months ago

      I tried to watch the ocean cut of Naruto, which basically edits each arc down, cutting out unnecessary flashbacks and recaps, along with intros and intros, making it into basically a series of films.

      It’s still 40 films worth of content and 3+ hours per film sometimes (I think, it’s been a while), and the pacing is still absolutely fucked which is a symptom of basically every episodic anime when binged.

        • @FarmTaco@lemmy.world
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          47 months ago

          one piece fans will lock you in a room until you get through alabasta and can answer a 100 question multiple choice exam

        • @Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world
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          The hype around One Piece saying “guys it’s really good trust me you should watch it.” That sentiment came from the Internet and one of my coworkers so I gave it a chance and watched around 40 episodes.

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        Not that i’ve seen any of them but 3 others come to mind

        Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan, Detective Conan

        • @Patches@sh.itjust.works
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          Huh. I never knew Shin Chan or Detective Conan went on. I saw them on Adult Swim and figured those 20eps were it.

          I’m gonna have to go to find where I can watch the rest. Thank you.

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            Conan is terrible for this. The author has said that he already has the ending planned out, but wont use it until the series loses enough popularity to be cancelled. Canonically, the story only takes place for one year, but has had multiple Christmas specials, gone from pagers to flip phones to smart phones and has had more murders than Japan’s official yearly average.

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    Shonen manga is notorious for having winding stories with no narrative endgame planned.

    Even the DBZ anime at 291 episodes is brutally long and drawn out, with a narrative that obviously repeats itself to the point of self-parody.

    Everybody is gonna enjoy what they want to enjoy, but cmon.

    • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      I just rewatched Yuyu Hakusho and it became obvious real quick nothing planned from arc to arc. Even when the creators want a clean end, their editor will push for more if it’s popular enough. I can respect Demon Slayer for committing to the final villain that was setup in the beginning.

  • @mlg@lemmy.world
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    267 months ago

    A lot of these types of media have a really great premise and initial story before it devolves into every Shonen stereotype ever and way the hell too long and specific arcs.

    Like One Piece’s original formula of sea travel, pirate action, and island story worked great. It only suffered from Toei’s asanine pacing for the Anime.

    Now it’s basically 99% Island and nothing else. No one even acts like pirates anymore, and each Island lasts so long it actually gets boring to watch or read.

    The real crime here is that each chapter is about 15 pages, with currently 1101 chapters, yet the each anime episode is 24 minutes long and there are currently 1087 episodes.

    Toei has milked this content harder than their infinite stalling in DBZ.

  • @Gigan@lemmy.world
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    247 months ago

    One Piece is great, but it is a big investment. Worth it IMO. If you’re not sure, watch the Netflix live action. It’s only 8 episodes and is pretty faithful to the original.

    • Pistcow
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      I was laid off, and in my 13 months before getting a new job, I didn’t watch a single episode.

      • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 more years tops. Iirc he mentioned he has one more arc in him. Historically they’re 2ish years long give or take. So just a bit longer and we’ll get to see how the one piece was the friends we made along the way.

        Jk I know he said it wasn’t that.

  • @pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    I think it’s more like a soap opera to the Japanese, that’s a guess though. It started in 1998 or 99, which means if you were 5 when you started watching it, you’re in your upper 20’s which is wild. I think there are people that cut out all of the filler of the anime that you can watch and the netflix adaption is about 4 years’ worth.

    • MentalEdge
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      237 months ago

      It’s called One Pace, it’s a fan edited version that takes out filler and overly long panning shots etc. to make the pacing of the anime match the manga more closely.

      • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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        I realize that’s something I really like about unvoiced JRPGs, and manga; my reading pace dictates the scene’s pace, and I’m a decently fast reader. I’m not going to rush delivery on a dramatically impactful line, but I also won’t linger on some duke blabbing about the history of his house’s conflict with the weekend’s villain.

    • @Gigan@lemmy.world
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      57 months ago

      The Netflix Live action One Piece didn’t even cover all of the East Blue Saga, which ran from 1997 to 1999 originallly.

  • MentalEdge
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    Chapter 1176?

    The quality of the anime has some serious dips, but the manga is absolutely god tier from start to finish (or current latest chapter).

    • @Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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      Nah, the manga has its issues too. They are just minimal compared to the anime. Oda will sometimes easily spend 10 chapters moving characters around just to setup some specific scene he wants to draw, then spend another 10 moving them back to where they need to be to continue the story. Half of wano was just moving chairs.

  • @psud@aussie.zone
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    When I had a kid at home who liked one piece I learnt that the show has no end. You can watch it while you want to and you’ll get a little story progression. You don’t need to start at the start, you don’t need to watch to the non existent end

    It was fun to watch the first twenty or so episodes then jump to the current state (current state circa 2007)

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    Like the Bible, I maybe haven’t read every single word, there was the title, something something with a ship and a cross, then a damn long register, but I think, I got the essence. It’s a boring antediluvian scam, kinda like Elon has written it…

  • @yamanii@lemmy.world
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    87 months ago

    Biggest media I’ve followed must be Jojo, and that’s because each part changes the characters and setting, keeping it fresh.