Linux is all good if you only play singleplayer games. My friends started playing the finals yesterday and it doesn’t run on linux because of EAC. Windows can run all my games without any proton switching and all the nvidia features like ray reconstruction and pathtracing with frame generation just works (alan wake 2 looks so good).

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    Cool, so since you left linux why are you posting this here?

    We all know windows is more compatible by design of the capitalism machine, we left it by choice for a reason.

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      Every multiplayer game that doesn’t work is because of anticheat. I wish valve actually pushed developers to fix their anticheat and make linux gaming better.

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        Valve does, and they were instrumental in getting EAC support. But they can’t force them to do anything, they can merely bait them with Steam Deck and desktop users, and those stats are all available in their surveys.

        If a dev asks Valve for help with Linux compat, I’m sure they’d help.

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      Why so hostile? Responses like yours are not going to make people come back to Linux anytime soon.

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        I have to agree with @semperverus - I find this post as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux.

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          as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux

          Which is exactly what is happening on Windows-related posts all over Lemmy.

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            Then please downvote them. Fanboyism is stupid regardless of what you’re shilling for.

            I only post if I think it’s directly relevant and constructive. Like noting Steam Deck compat for a game, or if someone asks about Linux on something I happen to be browsing. Then again, Linux isn’t new or fresh to me, it’s just the thing I’ve been using for 15 or so years, so I suppose I’m less excited about it than someone who just found it in the past year or something.

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    it doesn’t run on linux because of EAC

    Nah, it doesn’t work because the developer doesn’t want it to. EAC works really well on Linux, the developer just has to enable it, which takes literally less than 10 seconds.

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      That’s mostly true, but they also need to support it, which is a completely different ball of wax which involves QA testing, training support people, etc, perhaps with some dev work to ensure the experience is decent. It’s extra work, and many devs don’t want to deal with it.

      Sometimes no support is better than poor support from a business perspective.

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    OK. Use the OS that fits your use case.
    But posting “Linux sucks, Windows is better” on a Linux community isn’t helpful.

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      More like anticheat is holding back the adoption of linux and linux adoption/recommendation will be easier if all the games works.

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    All the developer needs to do is push a button to make EAC work. They’re probably busy hotfixing the 1.0 but I’m sure it’ll work soon, they are excluding all steam deck users by not pressing it

    Edit: apparently it’s not EAC that is the problem. The game has its own anti-cheat which also potentially bans your account if you try to play on linux https://www.protondb.com/app/2073850

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      Just FYI, the expression makes more sense the other way around:

      You can’t eat your cake and have it too.

      And yeah, dual booting is absolutely a thing. That said, I find rebooting to play a game silly, so I just avoid stuff that doesn’t work on Linux. I can totally see the opposite perspective as well.

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        My linux usually boots very fast while Windows takes its sweet time, but still within 5m from power on to everything is up and warmed up.

        So not something that stops me from rebooting to play a particular game

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          It’s not boot time, but context switching (close apps and whatnot). I suppose I could hibernate, but I still lose access to my network services, like my kids’ Minecraft server and network shares. And then Windows usually has massive updates because I launch it so rarely.

          If I play on Linux, I just launch the game, and that’s it.

          Before Steam came to Linux, I just didn’t play games very often. Now that most games work, I can just push play and I’m in a game, so I play a lot more games.

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          The point is you can’t eat your cake and still have it afterward, because it has been eaten. So the more common version OP referenced makes no sense because you obviously need to have your cake before you’re able to eat it, so it’s unclear what you’re trying to say.

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            Can I have some cake?

            Sure, here you go. You can go ahead and eat it, too. Go on. It’s chocolate.

            *having cake and eating it, too.

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              Right, but then the cake is gone and you don’t have it anymore, you just have a plate with crumbs. That’s what the adage is trying to convey (you can’t have it both ways). Either you save your cake for later, or you eat it not, you can’t do both.

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    Bait post aside, I never really understood why people make a big deal of “switching” to Linux or back to Windows.

    An OS install is like 60 GiB. If you’re a pro hacker gamer you probably have over a TiB of fast storage. Just keep the Windows install around and dual boot into it when/if you need it.

    Pains me to see people saying “I permanently switched to Linux and deleted my Windows install”, when you can keep it around for emergencies or modding.

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      Yup.

      I have only booted into my Windows install like 2-3 times in the past 5-10 years or so. But I still have it, it just lives on a separate SSD and I just forget it exists. I’ve only booted in to set up Minecraft Bedrock (kids wanted cross play, but their friends flaked), one time to run updates (was going to upgrade to Win 11, but it hated my processor; maybe my new one works), and to test a couple things in Windows. That’s it.

      When Microsoft EOLs Win 10, I might go through the trouble of upgrading it again. I don’t see much value in it, but it costs me nothing to keep it around. I’m not even sure if it still works after I upgraded the CPU and GPU, but I guess I’ll find out the next time I try to boot it.

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      If i use both, that will give me less incentive to be on linux , because windows even though it is annoying with microsoft bloat, everything just works and i will stay there because life is easier.

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    So some random new game is enough for you to change your whole operating system?

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      I just kept Linux on my PC and bought an XBox because Windows isn’t good for much else.

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        I just don’t play games that don’t work on Linux. I use Linux for other reasons, gaming is just the cherry on top. I have 100 or so games on my wishlist and hundreds of unplayed games in my library that all work fine on Linux, so I’m not hurting for choice.

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    Funny thing is that the game would probably work close to perfect if the devs just switched on the linux support in EAC. Sadly, it’s just isn’t worth for the devs. Linux user pool is too small and those who would play would generate new bug reports due to unconventional setup running through a compatibility layer.

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    Nah, it doesn’t work because the developer doesn’t want it to. EAC works really well on Linux, the developer just has to enable it, which takes literally less than 10 seconds.

    All the developer needs to do is push a button to make EAC work. They’re probably busy hotfixing the 1.0 but I’m sure it’ll work soon, they are excluding all steam deck users by not pressing it

    If it’s that easy, why isn’t there a mod or fix for people on Linux to do it themselves?