I also don’t use Twitter, Instagram or TikTok because they’re terrible.
I also don’t quite understand why a 20-year-old dating a 23-year-old is contentious. There’s no age gap at all. Who exactly is having a problem with this?
He sounds like a perfectly normal person who just doesn’t read the news.
Somewhat well adjusted, untouched by the corrupt hands of those unfamiliar with the prickly sting of fresh grass.
He said “you already know that bothers a subsection of the population”.
Not that anyone actually did, that was in his imagination.
Oh it bothers a certain kind of chronically online person. Tbf it’s a very small number of people, but they do exist, and are quite loud
What do they find an acceptable age range then? 6 months but no more?
Well imagine if they have been dating for 4 years
Ok…but that’s not the scenario in question.
I mean, fuck, imagine if he beats her and killed her dog. We can “imagine” things all day.
imagine if hes actually a 900 year old vampire. thatd be CREEPY
What if he’s like, SUPER sparkly?
But she’s actually a 899-year-old anime girl that looks 20.
16 to 19 isn’t really a big gap either imo
It’s not but one is an adult and shouldn’t be in a relationship with the kid
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Depends where you live, in the UK it’s fine.
Not in the US… Kids have to breakup when they turn 18 lol
That’s not true. About half the states in the US have “Romeo and Juliet” laws to protect couples in this situation. For example, when my husband and I started dating I was 19 and he was 16, and that age gap was perfectly legal in my state.
the kids themselves breakup when they turn 18 to avoid being frowned upon
Yeah but this is only happening in your made-up story that didn’t happen and isn’t relevant to what we’re talking about, so why you going on about it?
Do we know when they started dating? No.
I can say the same of any couple. So what’s the relevance of the comment?
Maybe not in the republic of Mormon land but fuck you retard. I had the best time in my life at that age, guess what I was the 16 y.o. part.
In my native country that’s perfectly fine as well, if the age gap is less than 5 years and one is less than 18 they are literally both kids, whether one of them has passed an imaginary line or not. This is just being pedantic. You will reply “uhhh so an 18 years old should be able to date a 13 years old?” completely ignoring that a 17 yo can anyway date a 12 yo without any problem. What are we even talking about? At that age parents should supervise them anyway
How is a 3 year gap a problem if she’s 20, wtf.
It’s not some people are just stupid.
He said “you already know that bothers a subsection of the population”, not that it actually did, it just did in his imagination.
I’ve literally never even once heard someone raise a fuss about an age gap that small. Dude sounds like an ass.
CallMeCarson got into a huge controversy for exchanging photos with a 17-year old when he was 20. People like that exist and ruin lives all the time.
I had a friend who irritated this part of the internet with fanfiction and got death threats because of it! It’s really stupid lol they’re called “antis” because they’re anti everything.
They’re so insane that they have called characters who knew other characters (all fictional characters, treated as seriously as though this was real life, mind you) when they were underage but ended up dating when both characters were canonically both above 18, they call the older character in that scenario a groomer. With their full chest. When no grooming activity has taken place. It’s very black and white. Also very “you should have known you would have offended me with that idea”-y which is very not good for creative work areas.
This is the side of the internet that infantilizes full grown adults, thus making a 20 to 23 year old age gap “problematic” (in heavy sarcasm quotes because I pretty vehemently believe there is nothing wrong with 2 consenting adults being in a relationship together. Problematic is a useful word still, but this just is not what problematic looks like)
its Tumblr.
the word you’re looking for is Tumblr.
Tumblr was historically split down the middle between fetish porn, and people who just had to take offense at everything to feel special about themselves.
Now those special folk are all thats left, now that Yahoo removed the porn.
No, not just Tumblr, they thrive on Twitter as well. That was where my friend got the death threats primarily. They did sprout from the Tumblr younglings though. I’m convinced antis are what happen when you’re catered to too much lol
They’d have had a field day with a situation that played out when I was in my 20s.
One girl I went to high school with, who was a few years older than me, had a big crush on the new young science teacher that started at our school in her junior or senior year. She took his classes and was friendly and close with him, but as far as I know, nothing inappropriate happened, and he was absolutely, positively, strictly professional the entire time.
Then she graduated and went off to college and they stayed in touch. Again friendly. Maybe less “strictly professional”, but certainly not romantic, even though anyone who knew her knew she had had this crush on him for years at that point.
After college, or even later in her college years, they start hanging out…as friends, maybe as casual dates, idk. Then after she finished college they quickly started dating, became a serious couple, and eventually got married and started a family.
Was it weird? Sure. But was any aspect of it inappropriate? Ehhhhh…idunno. I don’t think anyone ever “crossed the line” at any point, but comments were definitely made, eyebrows were raised, and rumors ran wild.
But in the end I think they kept it kosher enough, and by the time they got married, I feel like most people had gotten to the point that their reaction was more or less, “Yeah I guess it’s kinda weird, but whatever. It’s none of my business and if they’re both happy, good for them.”
But the kind of people you’re talking about would’ve had a meltdown.
I see this come up on social media, moreso with Gen Z and people that just like to be outraged about stuff online. They seem to be more sensitive to age gaps and call it grooming, even stuff within the typical “half your age plus seven” rule that most millenials and older gens seemed to find normal. I’m not sure that only 3 years would be a problem even for them though.
Well, I can totally imagine someone grooming a future partner from a very early age of 30 just to wait until they get retired and can spend the rest of life with them >!/s!<
I’m Gen Z and my gf is 9 yrs older than me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok that’s sus
Why?
It’s not, this a fake story used to drive rage engagement. The person making it up thinks certain people (feminists I’m guessing?) Would care about a 3 year gap between consenting adult just because they care about actual stuatory rape.
If he’s 17, I suppose.
23-20=3? Or am I missing something?
It’s not the math in question, it’s that 3 seems to be a small gap when the younger party is 20
Ah yeah of course! The engineer in my stupid brain was going off before common sense.
Maybe it’s because I’m a foreigner; maybe I’m also too disconnected, but I didn’t get half of the supposed contentious items listed in this post.
Reading the comments, I was like, ‘oh, that’s what they meant by…’. The body count really surprised me, and in a negative way. Body count sounds so… tasteless. But who cares. Since I don’t use that expression, I’ll probably forget it soon (the good side of having a lousy memory).
Body count sounds so… tasteless.
It is. Definitely not something I’d include under “modern discourse”. I’d say a co-worker asking that and using that particular term is the one that’s disconnected from the present.
They’re drunk playing truth or dare, really doesn’t seem that disconnected from the present to me to ask for their body count in that context.
Guess we live and work in different environments. The only place I still see people talking that way and using such excuses for it is in the mandatory sexual harassment training videos.
And this man is probably the most mentally healthy man this guy knows as well.
Jesus fucking christ, right? I look at all the comments calling the dude autistic and just think - when these kids are 30-40 and look back at their life, they’ll realize this guy was the most well-adjusted individual they ever knew and spend their mid-life crisis trying to emulate him by deleting their social networks and finally doing shit that pleases/develops them instead of shit that get them likes.
But so many of them will do the first step right in disengaging from social media…but then will only ever be able to make the next step be bragging about step one and trying to shame anyone and everyone who is exactly what they were not too long ago.
And one crazy effect I’ve seen is that it’s no longer stratified by age.
I rarely get on Facebook anymore but lately when I do, it’s full of people in their 50s and 60s, who are totally absorbed in that social media life and have their own strange cultural bubble among similar users, that I’m totally unable to relate to beyond observing it for what it is.
Speaking as someone who was overly sheltered… All of this is plausible.
We need more people like Alex
Ignorant and complacent? Alex would be a Nazi sympathizer.
Honestly I just want more people who don’t know what “body count” means.
I agree with this. It’s shames people who aren’t promiscuous.
Edit: orrr we can say it degrades those who haven’t had a fuckton of sexual partners… you like that description better??
For people who use the term, men who have had few partners are losers, women who have had more than a few are sluts, and actual human beings are reduced to scores. It’s a shit mentality in all directions.
Ew. I don’t quite like your framing any better
Ew. Luckily I’m free to disagree with you
Sex Shame much?
I thought they were implying he was a serial killer. But comments further down show that is not the case.
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What is “body count” in this context? Does it mean your number of sexual partners? If so, that’s very dismissive and reductive.
Yes and yes
Also weird that they were asked that at a coworker get together
The one thing from the redpills that spilled over to normal people.
Sex is fun, and meeting new fun people is great.
Referring to them as “body count” is neither
Not going to list names when I’m asked about my experiences, unless I’m having that conversation with a SO.
Being respectful of people in general is important. Whatever phrasing that allows me to talk about myself and keeps the other involved people anonymous is fine by me.
Why don’t call them partners, for instance? How’s that not anonymous?
It’s to remove the concept of relationships. Stay disconnected from other humans, just get your pleasure and move along.
Well, that’s just awful, thanks.
This is funny but I have a slight feeling that it’s made up
The one that seems slightly unbelievable to me is the “body count”. Unless he didn’t know what it’s used for now and was trying to play it off as a joke.
… What is it used for now? I have a guess, but if correct, I’ve never heard it used that way.
Number of people you’ve slept with.
Don’t worry, the key is to just start counting on your fingers.
If you have to ask, it’s probably 0.
I only recently heard about this one. But I’m decently older than 23.
I could buy this being a true story. Modern social media contravorcy is getting so ridiculous even I who passively takes part ends up out of the loop on occasion. Just imagine what is happening to someone who doesn’t take part in Twitter or tick tock at all.
Just imagine what is happening to someone who doesn’t take part in Twitter or tick tock at all.
Shouldn’t that be most of us? I don’t use those garbage websites or their apps.
There are no posts from this user on that subreddit so there’s that.
https://old.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/search?q=Author%3Abengalroute47&restrict_sr=on
Good find. Searching “my coworker is so unaware” on Google shows a deleted thread on r/casualconversation so who knows.
Good. You should doubt.
You Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?
What DOES from the river to the sea mean?
Edit: thank you all for helping me/us understand more about this.
There’s a pretty good Wikipedia article on it
As mentioned, it’s the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. It’s been used by Palestians since at least the mid 60s in a number of different chants, e.g. “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free/Arab/Islamic” (technically, the latter two are “from the water to the water” because otherwise the Arabic doesn’t rhyme).
Hamas’s charter says
Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea
While Netanyahu’s far-right Likud party’s 1977 manifesto says
between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty
It’s historically been somewhat controversial, with Zionists typically saying that it calls for the destruction of the state of Israel and/or the expulsion of Jews from the area. CNN fired a political commentator for saying it ~5 years back, and it’s regulated as hate speech in some places in Europe. Most pro Palestinian activists think that’s ridiculous, but it’s worth being aware of.
I mean the original charter for Hamas also mentioned ‘killing the Jews’ but I’m sure it was a side point 🤔😅
The current charter specifically makes a point of saying that that’s not what they want though. Makes a point out of dragging a distinction between Jewish people (they don’t have a problem with) and the Zionist project (which they do have a problem with
I’m pretty sure they took out the genocide part just because it is a bit derivative. They’re committed to peaceful protests I agree.
Borders of Palestine. Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
Israeli colonialism? It’s not a difficult concept ig you stop trying to deflect any criticism of Israel by calling it antisemitism.
You’d have a great point if they said: Gaza and Westbank will be free, but they’re not saying that. They’re saying “from the river to the sea”. A quick glance at the map will teach you that this includes the entire internationally recognized territory of Israel where about 7 million jews live, who are not colonists.
So what people actually mean when they say that they want that area to be free is that they want it to be free of jews. And that my friend, is a call to genocide, also not a difficult concept.
who are not colonists.
Okay so you’re either a troll or just an idiot. Given you keep trying to make me out to be an antisemite because that’s the standard, and frankly only, zionist shill tactic I’m going to with the former.
But just in case you are just an idiot: all of Israel is stolen land, its a country founded by Jewish colonists that unilaterally declared independence. Every single Israeli is a coloniser and Palestinians calling for their stolen land to be given or taken back are no worse than Indians who wanted their freedom from the British.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1
It’s really no use for anyone to view this conflict as black and white as you seem to do.
What is your point? It being a purchase makes them not settlers or not colonial?
So the Americans weren’t settlers because they purchased louisiana and Alaska?
Or to continue my India comparison, the British East India Company weren’t colonialists because they purchased land in India?
Is that really the implication you want to make here?
Okay so you’re either a troll or just an idiot. Given you keep trying to make me out to be an antisemite because that’s the standard, and frankly only, zionist shill tactic I’m going to with the former.
I never called you an antisemite, and I’d prefer it if you didn’t call me names like “troll”, “idiot” or “shill” either.
But just in case you are just an idiot: all of Israel is stolen land, its a country founded by Jewish colonists that unilaterally declared independence. Every single Israeli is a coloniser and Palestinians calling for their stolen land to be given or taken back are no worse than Indians who wanted their freedom from the British.
That is a very lopsided reading of the history of how the state of Israel came to be. There is a lot more nuance to that story, and I’d advise you to dig a bit deeper into it so that you can free yourself from the prejudices and dogma that you’ve become a victim to. /u/theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 's comment below is a good start.
But even if your story were completely true, your argument still ignores the fact that the majority of those 7 million jews who are living there right now are 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation immigrants who had nothing to do with that story other than being born in Israel. Any “from the river to the sea” solution will have to involve forcibly getting rid of them. There is no way to do that without committing genocide against those people.
Just because you inferred it rather than outright saying it, does not mean the accusation didn’t happen. Which is another tactic commonly used by trolls, so I’m now pretty sure you’re just being a dickhead for your own entertainment and don’t actually give a shit about this situation. Further proof of this is the classic: “what you said is wrong. I’m not going to tell how its wrong or whT the ‘right’ version is, just go do more research, lol” and I’m willing to bet I’ve read more accounts of the history of this conflict from both sides involved and external 3rd parties than you have.
And that’s classic colonialist apologism, “well they had kids here so the land belongs to them now.” Like should we consider the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There will have been thousands of Russians born in occupied Crimea by now. Does that mean that land belongs to Russia? Is invading a country completely acceptable as long as you hold on to it long enough for someone to have a kid?
But yes, decolonisation does require the removal of the colonising party. If they can’t return to their country of origin or their parents/grandparents country of origin, then they will need to legally immigrate/become citizens of Palestine. Its the same thing that’s happened in literally every case of decolonisation, leave or integrate into the new free state. It’s just given how Israel has treated the Palestinians I can’t imagine many Jews would want to be part of Palestine and face those consequences.
…I learned it from this comment section too. Had no idea.
A call to genocide basically.
That’s a questionable headline considering it was police interpreting an existing law (no courts or legislator has weighed in on the incident in the article). Read a better source here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/germany-gaza-protests-crackdown
police interpreting an existing law
That’s what the police does. They enforce the law as they understand it.
You’re right that it hasn’t been tested in court, but that only happens when someone challenges it in court.
It’s also important to note that Germany does not have absolute free speech, there are several anti-hate-speech and anti-nazi laws that limit that right, and the police can and does enforce that frequently.
My issue was with the headline and the article not making anything clear. You’re not repeating the headline in your argument so I think we’re done here.
Lazy troll is lazy
The person who wrote this sounds like a twat. Why judge the guy and put him on blast because he doesn’t follow the same social norms as you?
You thought this was putting him on blast? The last sentence is “Love you man”, you can’t get much farther from “on blast” than that.
Love you bro
Stop blasting him!
Phrasing?
Did… did you read the whole thing or did you jump straight to the comments to complain…? Nowhere is the OP putting him on blast, if anything the post is supportive.
I read it and still have a conflicting feeling about the post. Don’t know, it just doesn’t produce the “wholesome rant about charming things about a nice person” vibe, more like “I find you weird and love laughing at you” vibe
Seems rather positive towards the guy
There’s something wrong with you.
He is living the life.
This is one of those people who dont live or care about the internet, honestly this sounds like a very healthy lifestyle.
Lemmy really gives reddit for boomers with these made up rage bait posts like this.
Gets straight to the top and everyone is saying they wish they could be this guy because they don’t care about modern issues and want to go “back to the good ol days”. Rage bait didn’t even get rage, just people creaming over the idea of not thinking about global issues and trans rights.
I think people are just sick of all the self righteous fart smellers and the idea of someone who hasn’t gotten sucked into paying attention to them is endearing.
A couple months ago I was hanging out with my teenage cousin and his friends. I said something funny, and a friend said “what is that a reference to?” The problem I have is that I’m expected to be “making references” and all jokes are “memes”. There’s barely any original comedy to the point where original jokes are misunderstood as “rare memes”. I just say funny things. I’m not referencing anyone. I do like memes, but not everything is a meme.
Lol “kids these days” you’re saying the same shit people have said to shit on younger generations since Aristotle. And you’re calling them unoriginal.
Uhhh no? I’m 24. And the whole meme craze is driving out original comedy in favor of in-jokes. Also, I doubt Aristotle complained about tiktok memes
They could just get off the internet if they wanted
Nailed it.
I’m confused, what exactly did they nail?
He must have a high body count!
Why is it helpful to think about gender or global news exactly? Isn’t it better for mental well being to focus on your loved ones and what you can accomplish in a day. I don’t appreciate attention whores sucking up my time usually.
Because gender or global news may be important to your loved ones or just other humans you might like to show basic respect and decency to. You don’t need to become well read on every subject anyone might be passionate about, but it really doesn’t take a lot of effort to learn some pronouns and generally what’s going on in the world so you can be kinder to others.
Thank you, well said.
Isolationist me me me, why would I care about something that I’m not aware affects me or people I love even though it absolutely does attitude is the boomer mentality.
And energy.
A real human bean, and a real… hero.
A bean, you say?
?
“That’s bait”
Lol thx, still don’t get it
They mean ‘this is a made up story that is exists because it encourages engagement with itself.’ Social media has done fucking numbers on the commodification and quantification of social interactions as a result of letting the internet be dictated by mostly unfettered advertising and capitalist priorities.
Pretty sure they mean that this post is “rage bait” or something similar - controversial content that is designed to provoke arguments in the comments section. For example, the “from the river to the sea” comment could provoke comments about the war in Gaza. Or the entire post could provoke arguments about whether it is good or bad to participate in social media.
For example, the “from the river to the sea” comment could provoke comments about the war in Gaza.
Oh my god, I thought it was a Frozen 2 reference. I’m such an idiot. And I don’t have the excuse of not following the news lol
Oh… understood. Here I was reading the narrative, not looking for bait to rage about. Thanks friend
