Edit: sometimes there two pictures that are the same but the colour of the wall change. And you have to compare that to a black and white top down where you can’t see walls lmao

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    These things are ableist. We are reaching the point where AI can solve these much more reliably than a human. As a result the difficulty has to rise and will exclude more and more people which might have problems with “basic” tasks from a neurotypical perspective. Not to speak sometimes there might be multiple solutions depending on language and cultural interpretations.

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      These have been used to train ai for decades. Of course they can solve them, it’s what they are being trained to do by them.

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      WCAG AAA actually mentions that. Which includes things like OTP. It’s going to be tricky to balance security with accessibility in situations like this for those with cognitive and physical limitations

      https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding/accessible-authentication-enhanced

      OTP is a success criteria instead of captchas but then you have issues with accessibility when you require somebody to have a device like a phone for the code or require them to app/context switch. So somebody using a device using their eyes or tongue as an input trigger would have a hard, if not impossible, time logging in with that arrangement.

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      Eventually shouldn’t we theoretically reach a point where AIs can solve any possible practical to use captcha just as well as a human? I kinda wonder what the answer to replace them will eventually be

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        It’s already beatable right now, there are services in third world countries where people get paid fractions of a penny to solve captchas for machines.

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        Well, this isn’t a problem for smaller, less centralized services, so that might be an answer. Obviously not an answer big corporations will bring to the table, but ultimately, it might simply be among the reasons why users do still prefer smaller services.

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      Oh yeah, it’s ableist as fuck. The worst offender I’ve run into was a CAPTCHA I had to solve to make a neuropsychologist appointment, of all things. Sure, they only required the use of basic skills to solve, but those were the very skills I was seeking treatment for.

      Gave up in tears, never got that appointment.

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        I feel your pain. I have rare disorders which affect my executive functioning, so simple tasks are insurmountable at times for me while my intellectual ability is unaffected and likely above average. Which leads to two things: I rarely get help making appointments and what to do and just “do it yourself” without guidance and get kicked out. And the other one is that I could not be possibly correct interpreting the test results, because how could I have the ability without being an official researcher to research things. I am deeply frustrated, the more tests I run and see my thesis is correct, the more push back by doctors it is more likely to have randomly a dozen conditions instead of a single one uniting them. Welcome to Ehlers Danlos.

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      I ran into this recently. Trying to get access to a credit union’s system as a vendor, they had a captcha that was the old style image of distorted text, with a text box labeled “are you a robot?”. Having the tendency to take things literally, I initially typed “no” into the box. That was not the right answer.

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      Don’t they normally offer other options for people who can’t do the visual challenges?

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        I’ve had to do a lot of Jira captchas over time. They were so horribly ambiguous that I had a failure rate of about one in two. So I tried the audio captcha and was met with the sound of a demon being murdered and nothing else.

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      I stumbled on this recently

      https://friendlycaptcha.com/

      I can hardly claim to know enough about captchas to weigh up the cost / benefit, but I was delighted to come across a captcha that didn’t try to force me to train an AI

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    I’m not even disabled, but as soon as I see these I close the website.

    I haven’t got time to faff around solving some stupid puzzles just to log in to my account.

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    It reminds me of the difficulty of making things bear-proof without excluding some humans

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    They want you to solve 20 of them? What is at the end of this game?

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        Took me a second to get the reference, but god damn if that’s not spot on with how I feel towards these ridiculous captchas hahaha

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      An expired token and you get to play the game again. Sony was using this for their SEN logons and walked back the change after maybe a day (if that). The alternative was hilarious; pick out 10 different sounds only to get an error at the end.

      It’s the only time I’ve ever called a support line and asked for an immediate escalation to a manager. Customers locked out of their accounts is very bad for business.

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    I fucked around with dozens of these trying to get my steam linked email changed, only to find out it’s virtually impossible. Then I sent an email to the support line explaining why I’m never buying another Rockstar game.

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    Blizzard has been pulling this too. I bought Diablo IV and got this bullshit:

    I’d refresh it hoping the “out of 15” was a fluke, but no… Sometimes it was 17 or 18.