With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.

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      Civilians, most likely. Why, are you okay with treating ANY human being like this?

      But of course the IDF won’t say who they are or why they are holding them in this position that with all honestly invokes images similar to the holocaust or some other fucked up human tragedy.

      Edit: I think your comment is quite shameful. It is an attempt at excusing Israel’s humiliating treatment of Palestinians. If you read the article, these people were arrested for simply being men and for being in the North of Gaza… And yeah, you’ll probably think anyone in the north deserves to die after Israel told people to evacuate… Even though it bombed them in the North and South and in their homes and shops and streets and everywhere they go. Fuck Israel. Zionism is facism. This is facism. And supporting it is supporting a Hiterly figure who dehumanized Palestinians like Hitler dehumanized Jews. When I see someone see these images and still excuse the crimes of Israel, it makes me hate living in this world.

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        No, they’re not civilians, they’re Hamas members came out of tonnels Northern Gaza when IDF have started to flood them with sea water

        And how else is IDF supposed to make sure that they don’t have any weapons?

        And it’s not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it’s really disrespectful

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          Do you have a source or is all this bullshit pouring out of your ass?

          What’s disrespectful to the holocaust IS TO FUCKING REPEAT IT AND CLAIM THE HIGH MORAL GROUND.

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            No point arguing with him, he seems much like an pro-Zionist and will claim anything without source - to “prove” his point.

            Recommend just block such people, not worth the energy and time.

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              Even the article he/she linked in response to this says two opposite things: they “surrendered” and that they “were being checked”.

              Those men in that picture will need therapy, a lot of it, to overcome this crap… If they even make it out alive.

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            Hamas threw the first punch then ran to hide in the shadows.

            How else can you retaliate without blowing up everything casting a shadow?

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              By retaliating in a manner that doesn’t involve blowing up everything that casts a shadow

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              I feel like trying to define a ‘firat punch’ in the shit show that has been palestinian-israeli relations is a fruitless task.

              Surely a more productive avenue would be to seek common ground, shared humanity and a practical way forward among the moderates on both sides.

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                It’s a very easy task for someone who wants to start the clock at a point that makes Israel look like the victim.

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                The first punch was dealt by israel. There is no question about this.

                It’s as like saying "man I wonder who started that Apartheid shit in South Africa. Maybe the black people did it to themselves!

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                  I feel like “there is no question about this.” as a statement is just not true. there is definitely some debate about it.

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                    The same debate you can hold for the South Africans. Or any other colony.

                    People stole their land, then they got mad and retaliated. Then you can start the funny chain.

                    The original sin remains the creation of the apartheids state of israel on another people’s land.

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              Maybe you missed the memo, but no one believes the IDF anymore and neither should they believe a bunch of people sitting on a pile of skulls that used to be journalists and UN workers.

              But yeah I couldn’t give two shits about whether or not you like how I speak. Everyone can see through you.

              Edit: do you REALLY think you need to blindfold people, strip them to their underwear, and make them sit somewhere in a line on their knees in a humiliating fashion, out in the open to investigate their activity?

              This isn’t even new. We know Israel tortures people in prison. We know they have been stripping lots of people being detained WITHOUT A FUCKING CHARGE.

              Is this a regime you are proud to defend? Seriously

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              The IDF: they surrendered

              Also the IDF:

              The IDF ordered women in the area to go to a nearby hospital and later threated to shoot them if the men did not come out of their homes, he said.

              One war crime after the next after the next after the next…

              The IDF (again): but they are just KHAMAS fighters!

              But also the IDF:

              The Arabic language news outlet, which also publishes in English under the name the New Arab, said Mr al-Kahlout had been arrested along with his brothers, relatives and “other civilians” by Israeli forces in Beit Lahia.

              Fuck the IDF and all their actions from the bottom of my fucking heart.

              This story today almost had me collapse, I don’t know what made me not pick up that coffee mug and slam it across the floor. How can anyone allow such sad footage to remain the current reality? How could anyone defend this dehumanization of Palestinian men who have spent the last month mourning their dead or trying to pry them from under rubble, with no food and no clean water? How did Israel get us this fucking far and deep into human rights violations?

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          And it’s not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it’s really disrespectful

          Just FYI, holocaust denial began during the holocaust. The denial of this genocide of Palestinians is also happening during. Do you know how many Germans couldn’t get themselves to believe the atrocities committed by their government? Do you want to repeat the same today?

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            Bold of you to assume any of these propel complaining read anything beyond the title.

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      Ya they are men from Palestine. Doesn’t make them Hamas because I doubt the IDF are taking prisoners of war. They bomb hospitals and refugee camps. Taking a enemy combatant alive isn’t their MO.

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        That’s the point, not all Palestinians are members of Hamas, it’s sad that people equate between the two.

        Not really.

        And Israel does takes POW, how else would it get to know where Israeli hostages are?

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          If Israel knew where the hostages are then why do so many released hostages say that bombs were firing really close to them? And why do we have reports of dead hostages due to Israeli bombing?