I was just reading about how a current Israeli war minister’s son died in combat and it made me wonder that if Israeli’s politicians who make these decisions know their family will be affected by it personally and directly, does that lend towards the suggestion that it is more likely they are making genuinely ethically and morally correct decisions to engage in war stuff given their personal skin i the game?

It would seem totally different from American politicians like Cheney who create bullshit geopolitical conflicts knowing full well their progeny will never be touched by it…

Edit: I’m assuming they actually care/give a shit about their offspring and family, even if only just for appearences

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    The rich and powerful can buy their way out of stuff anywhere…

    I don’t understand why you wrote so much about Israel when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Calling middle eastern jews white supremacists is fucking insane, for example. I bet you wouldn’t even be able to distinguish between an average Israeli Jew and Arab.

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        So did my parents (and many others) which emigrated from a soviet state after the fall of the soviet union. And they’re very white.

        Israelis are just xenophobic, this isn’t white supremacy. There is a famous old Israeli skit about how every single group which arrived faced these issues. You guys are unknowingly spewing the same bullshit extreme right wing politicians are saying in Israel about Mizrahi Jews.

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          Good point about “white supremacy” being the wrong term used here. I agree that calling it xenophobia/racism is more correct in this case.

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      Calling middle eastern jews white supremacists is fucking insane

      Are you talking about the European Jewish people who dominate Israel’s political and economic establishments? Have you noticed that Netanyahu doesn’t look Ethiopian, perhaps?

      No, Clyde… it’s perfectly obvious who it is that doesn’t know what it is they are talking about, and it’s the people doing apologetics for white supremacism. Ie, you.

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        Yeah sure, you, a South African, know more than me, an Israeli, about Israel…

        It’s no surprise that European Jews dominate many parts of Israeli society when you consider the fact that most Jews who came to Israel before 1948 were European (the Jewish population rapidky expanded post-1948 as Jews were driven out of Arab countries), and rich European Jews with Zionist aspirations also invested a lot of money in Israel during this period.

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          know more than me

          I know you better than you think, Clyde… we were pretty much raised drenched in the same kind of propaganda. After all… Apartheid-South Africa and Israel were besties, weren’t they? And despite the fact that the National Party took their white supremacism (and their antisemitism) straight from the nazis, too - imagine that?

          It’s no surprise

          Of course it isn’t! For sure! You have that in common with every other white supremacist colonialist project out of sheer coincidence… totally not because the people sitting at the top of Israel’s political and economic establishments learned their white supremacism from the best in the business - ie, the west.

          You know… the west? The people who invented antisemitism right before they invented white supremacism?

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            we were pretty much raised drenched in the same kind of propaganda

            “pretty much” being the key words, since the white people who colonised SA had never set foot there before nor had any history or claim to the land, while that absolutely isn’t the case for Jewish people returning to their homeland.