• CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    First of all no: Training a model and selling the model is demonstrably equivalent to re-distributing the raw data.

    Secondly: What about all the copyleft work in there? That work is specifically licensed such that nobody can use the work to create a non-free derivative, which is exactly what openAI has done.

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      11 months ago

      Copyleft is the only valid argument here. Everything else falls under fair use as it is a derivative work.

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        11 months ago

        If I scrape a bunch of data, put it in a database, and then make that database queryable only using obscure, arcane prompts: Is that a derivative work permitted under fair use?

        Because if you can get chatgpt to spit out raw training data with the right prompt, it can essentially be used as a database of copyrighted stuff that is very difficult to query.

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          11 months ago

          No because that would be distribution, as I’ve already stated.

          If it doesn’t spit out raw data and instead changes it somehow, it’s a derivative work.

          I can spell out the distinction for you twice more if you still don’t get it.

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            11 months ago

            Exactly! Then you agree that because chatgpt can be coerced into spitting out raw, unmodified data, distributing it is a violation of copyright. Glad we’re on the same page.

            You should look up the term “rhetorical question” by the way.

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              11 months ago

              So you understand the distinction between distribution and derivative work? Great!