The chief justice doesn’t like his conservative Supreme Court colleagues getting called out for judicial overreach.
“Why won’t they just let us make wildly unpopular decisions that jeopardize the livelihoods of Americans without having to make us feel bad about it?!”
-Roberts, 2023
"Why can’t we be blatantly corrupt without getting called on it? "
Well if the court didn’t engage in clearly partisan politics, maybe the liberal justices wouldn’t have anything to criticize.
Does he realize how bad it looks when he voices that his problem is criticism and not like, I don’t know, taking money from political interests? Or refusing to recuse in cases where there’s a relative directly involved?
It is really incredible how far down the drain the SCOTUS has gone in such a short period of time. Not saying it was great before Justice Kennedy retired either, but at least back then it was generally respected.
I hope RoyGBiv is rolling in her grave at refusing to step down and let Obama select a replacement when she knew the power of her position.
Why do you think they would’ve filled her spot when they didn’t fill the other one with Merrick Garland? She protected her spot or they would’ve held it up until Trump.
She could have retired at any time, including right after Obama was elected. The Republicans couldn’t have held the spot open for years. It would have become a major election issue.
Unfortunately, she’s dead which means she will never even have the capacity to understand what her decision meant.
None of these people deserve their positions.
I don’t know, I like Sotomayor. And Brown-Jackson seems alright. And I really don’t have much opinion on Kagan aside from the fact that I usually agree with her rulings. As for Conservatives, I disagree with all of them almost always, but Gorsuch at least seems to care about consistency, and I think his views on Native affairs is admirable.
If it’s not clear, I mean all the conservatives that clearly were put there for nefarious reasons. And none of them deserves a life time position on the supreme court regardless, and by them here I mean everyone, not just conservatives.
The supreme court even as a concept is one of the most asinine yet accepted institutions in the world. On par with the Catholic church, but so much worse because it actually has enormous and direct power over 330+ million people. I am dreaming and pining for the day that someone in power, most likely a president, just legitimately tells them to fuck off. They have no enforcement power and they fucking know it. I’m yearning for someone to have the courage, but it’s as clear as it possibly can be that it certainly won’t be a Democrat.
Can you elaborate on the comparison to the church? You don’t like a panel having authority so you want to consolidate it to a president unilaterally ignoring the third branch? Would term limits on judges change how you see the court?
The Catholic church is an unjustifiable and ridiculous institution in the same way the supreme court is. The Catholic church also had a lot of control over the lives of many people for a very long time, although that influence has obviously waned in recent centuries and decades (although it’s clearly still not completely gone). Now, as far as the president having control, I will also say fuck the presidency, but it would always be my hope that a person in that position would do anything in their power as a president and a person to stand up to unjustifiable institutions like the supreme court. Obviously a president couldn’t abolish the supreme court single-handedly, nor do I think that would necessarily, inherently be a good thing, but I do think that a president could and should call out the obvious reasons for which the institution needs to be abolished, because it absolutely does. The fact that nine human beings can directly control the lives of millions and millions and millions of people is an absolute travesty. I don’t even feel dissimilarly about congress, but obviously it’s a bit better because they are actually elected. In general, though, I am a very strong proponent of direct democracy. Term limits are a starting point, but it would be akin to applying a bandaid to a gaping, oozing wound.
Holy crap this is endgame. The head of the judicial body is too concerned about the feelings of the body?
So, just logically. I have a personal commitment and value to something. And somebody gets mad at me about it. My values and commitment should be able to withstand that? Yes? As soon as someone has a different opinion it’s like “I can’t bear to hear a different opinion (clutches pearls) and I can’t stand to have my opinion critiqued”
For you and me and the lady in the checkout line (and I say that as a lady who is often in checkout lines), that’s great. But this is the head of the judicial body of one of the most powerful nations - most powerful democracies - on earth. These are opinions that shape the lives of 300 million people at least. And he’s gonna be there for another quarter of a century.
Like how many steps is Roberts from a kind of de facto chilling effect, and I’m not trying to be funny
Thank God for the generations who hear a public figure try to corral or control a situation and then begin to act in doing the exact opposite. Definitely need to remind the conservative justices that there are people out here
End rant (for now)
I don’t think he is anywhere near a chilling effect on the liberal justices.
They main problem we have with SCOTUS is that they don’t have to GAF what anybody says.
That is good if the person has principles, but has problems if they are grifting trash.
The thing he should be complaining about is the bribes - I’m sorry, speech - that the justices are taking. But since he gets 8 figures of speech by consulting gigs for his wife, there is no chance the Chief Grifter will tackle the real problem.
To the three of you who downvoted me without a word of explanation: we can see who downvotes who on kbin.
So I ask you, why did you downvote me and why do you think that this guy talking to his fellow politicians is news worthy? We are not on an american website anymore, the rest of the world doesn’t care about the american constant struggle and crying about politicians saying stuff.
I’m downvoting you because you’re being incredibly immature right now. People can disagree with you
Saying “how dare you downvote me, I can SEE IT!” and calling them out makes you look like a giant child. You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that’s something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.Downvoting and running away was a reddit thing, now you are accountable for your downvotes.
I have the maturity to ask for answer when people react to what I say. My question about sorting posts out of @news and moving them to @USpolitics is perfectly legitimate. I’m glad that some people took the time to answer so we can have a discussion, but so far among the handful of people who had the courage to put up a written argument I’ve read nothing convincing me that this post has its place in @news rather than in politics.
If all you want is a copy of reddit then please go back to reddit.You will have a barrage of US political news all day long.
You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that’s something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.
Block me, be my guest, at least you won’t be able to downvote me on sight anymore.
Doing things like calling out someone’s post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that’s the kind of behaviour you’re exhibiting right here. You’re being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs. Just like Americans shouldn’t only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn’t only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don’t like it, unsubscribe yourself.
Go touch some grass dude.
Doing things like calling out someone’s post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that’s the kind of behaviour you’re exhibiting right here. You’re being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs.
I’m not whining, I’m calling people out on their bullshit votes. @news is turning into political trash and you don’t seem to care.
Just like Americans shouldn’t only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn’t only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don’t like it, unsubscribe yourself.
I’m not closed, I already posted about foreign countries. And if you are not happy with people calling you out on your bullshit then go back to reddit where you can downvote incognito.
You can turn this place to shit if you want to but I won’t remain quiet about it, dude…
I’m calling people out on their bullshit votes.
Okay, I’ve been staying out of this but now I just have to: what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically “bullshit”?
Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?
And really, why should anyone have to type out a whole response to justify clicking downvote? What makes your opinions so astronomically important that they deserve everyone’s full intellectual energy or none at all?
