Enshittification begins again
Yeah, I’m not sure what this article is even trying to say; this has been happening for a while now.
Like, it’s shitty, but it’s not even the shittiest thing Github has done. I’m more annoyed about the whole AI stuff, the fact that they have de-facto veto powers on most open source projects and that they don’t let you have multiple accounts to separate your professional life from your cringe life.
Modern times are really “people should get off of X platform but don’t because people don’t want to move”.
they don’t let you have multiple accounts to separate your professional life from your cringe life
Can you post more on this? I found this article that seems to recommend you only use one account, but doesn’t seem to suggest that they enforce it. I have like 8 GitHub accounts with a cringe/professional mix, so hopefully that’s not something I need to fix. (Ironically I usually stay logged out anyway)
https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/github-terms/github-terms-of-service#3-account-requirements
Here, I’m afraid. Third bullet. Whether or not they enforce it is another matter.
Sucks because I kinda might want to contribute some things to projects that I don’t want people to know professionally.
Or maybe I can just make my profile private and hope nobody goes looking too hard.
They…have an “add account” feature right in their UI though. They are obviously okay with multiple accounts. Perhaps it is an abuse thing like if they notice you sock puppeting or something.
That’s for if you have a personal account and one provided by your company.
In some cases, you may need to use multiple accounts on GitHub.com. For example, you may have a personal account for open source contributions, and your employer may also create and manage a user account for you within an enterprise.
Ruh roh. Yeah I’m involved with several projects that I’d rather not trace back to my other identities, and I make a new GitHub account per job. Even if they start enforcing it I imagine it’s quite hard for them to actually figure out what’s all connected without amping up their identification schemes with mandatory phone numbers and etc. I guess we’ll burn that bridge when we get to it.
Oh, they do.
I didn’t clear my cookies/use a vpn to sign up for multiple accounts.
All registered accounts, including my main one, were locked. All secondary ones were shadowbanned. I had to message support to get restrictions on my main removed.
Did they actually unlock your account?
All the horror stories I’ve read about this sort of thing usually end in “I tried to contact support/submit an appeal but they told me to take a hike”.
Yes, they unlocked one of them.
I’m not sure where they have their information from, I have 2 very unique, personal accounts on github and i’ve had zero issues.
first is my public “portfolio” page and occasional professional/corporate client connected account, it is very much an account that you would “know” my info, linkedin, keybase, etc identifiers. Then i have a personal one that I use to contribute more anonymously, which I use to further opensource projects that my clients wouldn’t want me contributing to due to conflict of interest. I’m not talking espionage levels, just modified supportive code that i have contributed to an enterprise that doesn’t support opensource initiatives (aka, they’d pay a fine if it ever came public).
They just replied with this link, which has it listed as the third bullet. I suspect they don’t actually care enough to do anything, but I had no idea that it was in their ToS.
ha, good info. I wouldn’t meet that violation because my main public account is a pro account. But, you’re not alone in multiple accounts and I assume unless you’re violating other TOS, you’ll be fine.
Giving them money is likely the reason you still have your accounts.
Log into another free account on your machine and see what happens.
Modern times are really “people should get off of X platform but don’t because people don’t want to move”.
More like “people should get off of X platform but don’t because people they regularly interact with don’t want to move, and because herd mentality”
It’s the same reason why people tolerate YouTube’s bullshit. The audience won’t switch to a platform without content, and the content creators won’t switch to a platform without an audience.
What do you mean they don’t let you have multiple accounts? I’ve had three accounts for years, and I’m not doing anything to hide the fact they’re all me.
That’s more likely to target farming, like 1 person with 1000 accounts that are used as bots. At least I hope so.
this is why we use [GitLab|SourceHut|Gitea|Codeberg|Forjego|Choose your favorite and insert it here]
(in other news it appears i have inadvertently discovered that the lemmy dialect of markdown supports ruby)
Companies are putting moats around their data (or the data they host) because AI needs data to train its models on. It is the same reason Reddit changed their API access.
I’ll even wager 20 imaginary internet coins that Wikipedia will require logins to do any searching within the next year.
I’ll even wager 20 imaginary internet coins that Wikipedia will require logins to do any searching within the next year.
I’ll take that bet. Being a community-driven non-profit, Wikipedia is different.
I don’t buy that as the reddit reason for their API change.
For a group that wants to feed AI models, web scraping reddit is barely a speed bump compared to having a nice API to use.
Reddit did what it did to force users onto their mobile app so they could better harvest user data and keep them from avoiding ads.
This made me go check on OpenRed, a reddit app for iOS that didn’t use the API (a more than likely no-no - scraping the site, essentially).
Not only is it missing from the App Store, but the dev and his subreddit were both banned.
It’s crazy how long Reddit was such a huge part of my life and then just like that, doesn’t exist.
The only thing I miss are the videos.
Videos don’t get traction here it seems.
In this case I don’t think that’s the reason. All code on github is not Microsoft’s data, is open source and easily downloadable by whoever needs it to train the models.
This is an inconvenience only for humans to force them to have an account
Wow, I was not aware of this. That’s a pretty big reason why I make my stuff open-source, so others can look through it and learn from it. I know, everyone who stayed on GitHub is officially Microsoft’s bitch now, but I still can’t fathom why this didn’t make bigger waves…
Probably because like you I wasn’t aware of what Microsoft was up to. Let’s just hope embrace extend extinguish doesn’t end up with a GitHub version of git.
They do already have GitHub Desktop, for Windows and macOS…
In fairness though that’s just a UI for git in the same vein as things like GitKraken or GitCola atm if I’m not mistaken
That is my understanding of it, too, yeah. In principle, I’m also okay with them providing something like this. I’m just worried that they’ll eventually start adding stuff into it, which impacts Git.
This has been happening for a little while now. I’ve started cloning repos and using local searches instead.
And “little while” is, I think, at least a year. If not more.
I think about half a year, assuming that’s what they mean in this blog post: https://github.blog/changelog/2023-06-07-code-search-now-requires-login/
You’re absolutely right. I was thinking about global, unscoped search. That sucks.
Searching code globally across GitHub.com already requires users to login, but starting today, we are extending that to include repository-scoped search as well.
Is Codeberg a good alternative if I’m gonna have my dotfiles (public) and some open-source software?
