Same will happen to other German car manufacturers. This is what happens if lobbyists and corrupt politicians wank each other off behind closed doors. No incentives to go with the times and trying to squeeze out as much money short term as possible
BS, that’s what happens with shit management. They gambled all in with EVs and it failed big time, because nobody wants them. They also gambled all in with touch and screwed their base over and also they pulled everything out of the cars that made them good cars - and also “boring”.
Their problem isn’t investing in EVs. Their problem is that their EVs are shit and also expensive so, obviously, no one will buy them. Besides, EV sales are growing more and more each year. I don’t know where you’ve been living dude
Yeah, even back when I liked VW, I understood the car itself might be priced in my range, but the parts cost similar to BMW parts, where there’s certainly some enthusiast gouging going on.
And then the emissions scandal came out when shit like that was getting more important to me.
A friend of a friend was offered a general counsel position at VW. They told him something like “the hours are good unless there’s a crisis”. Their timing was bad though because while he was still thinking it over, news broke of another layer to their emissions scandal which would have kept him much busier than expected. And they knew that was coming but couldn’t say, “we need more lawyers to deal with this coming crisis” but had to instead act as if it’s just a normal hire with normal hours. Has much changed from how they were run in the 1930s?
This is exactly how I feel about VW. Clearly an unscrupulous company that will lie to anyone to make an extra buck. If they were willing to deceive powerful regulatory bodies in a vast conspiracy with the side effect of fucking over the already fucked environment, what hope does the lowly consumer have to trust such an organization. Fuck 'em, they can go out of business for all I care.
Also not disagreeing, but don’t give the ones who are proven to be scum a pass because of the assumption the others are also scum. Make them at least work to hide their shit and maybe every now and then they’ll decide that something is too risky and make a good choice because they know that even if the law gives them an easy out, they could be dead to a lot of people.
Same will happen to other German car manufacturers. This is what happens if lobbyists and corrupt politicians wank each other off behind closed doors. No incentives to go with the times and trying to squeeze out as much money short term as possible
BS, that’s what happens with shit management. They gambled all in with EVs and it failed big time, because nobody wants them. They also gambled all in with touch and screwed their base over and also they pulled everything out of the cars that made them good cars - and also “boring”.
Their problem isn’t investing in EVs. Their problem is that their EVs are shit and also expensive so, obviously, no one will buy them. Besides, EV sales are growing more and more each year. I don’t know where you’ve been living dude
It’s probably not just because ev. Golf has become a high end brand even before that. Not really a peoples car if parts cost a lot.
I bought a TDI, and was burned by the faking the emissions scandal. Fuck that company.
Yeah, even back when I liked VW, I understood the car itself might be priced in my range, but the parts cost similar to BMW parts, where there’s certainly some enthusiast gouging going on.
And then the emissions scandal came out when shit like that was getting more important to me.
A friend of a friend was offered a general counsel position at VW. They told him something like “the hours are good unless there’s a crisis”. Their timing was bad though because while he was still thinking it over, news broke of another layer to their emissions scandal which would have kept him much busier than expected. And they knew that was coming but couldn’t say, “we need more lawyers to deal with this coming crisis” but had to instead act as if it’s just a normal hire with normal hours. Has much changed from how they were run in the 1930s?
More expensive and less reliable.
I wonder how their management expected increase in sales. Maybe they trusted Joe’s chart.
When they tried to skirt emissions standards, I decided never to buy another VW.
Whether they rolled out EVs or not, these fucks tried to break the law to destroy the planet. They can get fucked.
This is exactly how I feel about VW. Clearly an unscrupulous company that will lie to anyone to make an extra buck. If they were willing to deceive powerful regulatory bodies in a vast conspiracy with the side effect of fucking over the already fucked environment, what hope does the lowly consumer have to trust such an organization. Fuck 'em, they can go out of business for all I care.
Not disagreeing, but you are describing almost every company or corporation above a certain size
Also not disagreeing, but don’t give the ones who are proven to be scum a pass because of the assumption the others are also scum. Make them at least work to hide their shit and maybe every now and then they’ll decide that something is too risky and make a good choice because they know that even if the law gives them an easy out, they could be dead to a lot of people.
Oh yes, that’s definitely how I also feel about them
How much have they spend on dieselgate?