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    Some Republicans are good at deceiving others into thinking they’re good people.

    I live in a red state. None of them are good people. If they were, they wouldn’t align with a party of hate.

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      If you are republican you believe in cutting social safety nets, pro war, anti gun regulation, and anti lgbtq. I view all of those as “bad people traits”. I don’t think anyone who can say they are for gutting welfare can also say they are a good person at heart.

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          Exactly. You can say please and thank you all you want, hold doors open for people, smile at them on the sidewalk, but that’s all thrown in the garbage if you aren’t willing to actually do something to help people.

          Welfare is a great example - most republicans use the “it’s being abused” line as their go-to reason that it should be scrapped. Being a good person is knowing that it is being abused - but the value of it helping people outweighs the 1ish percent of people who are on it and abuse it.

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            Half of the programs are so neutered it’s like, who cares that it is? Ohhh noooo this guy makes $23k instead of $22k he still can’t afford to eat let him have his blistering $100 of ebt. 🤷

            My favorite is catching those “I wouldn’t work either if I could just live on a check!” types. I encourage them to get that ssi check if they can, while explaining that they’ll have to spend their savings down to under a grand, if they have two cars they’ll have to sell one, etc etc - all to pull like $800/mo that’ll drop to $50 if they log so much as a few hours at a part time job.

            If that sounds like heaven to you, live yo best life fam. 🤷 But I don’t think that reality aligns with their vision of life of SSI.

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      Hard to describe, but this is one of the final confrontations of a story I’m writing, and I love it;

      “Look, you don’t get it. We don’t need to fight. I’m not with those racist psychopaths, I’m just following their orders and keeping my head down.”

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    If you vote republican, you’re not a good person, and never have been since the party flip-flop. They’ve always been the party trying to suppress the rights of anyone who isn’t a rich white male.

    And now they’re literally traitors trying to overthrow our government.

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        You don’t have to be the person who overthrows the government.

        Your vote is for people who incite the overthrowing.

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            Why say you support a political party, then say you wouldn’t ever vote for them? Doesn’t that make you… Not a republican?

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                In the earlier comments someone said supporting a party that would overthrow the government is bad, and you said

                I never would in a million years

                Which sounded like a “yeah but i wouldn’t overthrow the government”, leading to me assuming you considered yourself a republican

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                  No I realise it could be taken that way. If you read further up their comment it says if you vote for someone it’s the same as overthrowing the government. I wrote I would never in response to the voting part, I didn’t need to go any further but I understand how it may have been taken that way

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    Are you saying “some republican voters are good people” or “some republican politicians are good people”?

    For the first one, that’s probably true but irrelevant. I think most republican voters are trying to do good with their vote, but they’ve got so caught up in Republican fascism that they honestly think voting red is good.

    For the second one, I highly doubt it. They don’t have the cult behavior excuse, so at best, they’re completely selfish, enough to put their job security over the lives of others.

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      I agree strongly with you. The problem is weak leadership from the republicans. The people are just along for the ride on the most part. If the politicians weren’t so spineless and scared of losing their own power they might actually stand up to the shit ones for what they believe in

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        Then you shouldn’t just vote republican or democrat, but as an american. I don’t label myself as either one - but over the last several elections the choice has been obviously democrat because of the republicans trying to seize power so much. If they could modernize their platform at all I would think about voting for them - but they’re stuck in the 1950s.

        So to cut power stop voting on party lines. Show that you’ll vote based on who has the best ideas, not a simple “I’ll always vote R”

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    And some Catholics don’t rape children. But they enable those who do.

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      Same goes for cops. If you support the people who hurt others, you’re complicit in the hurting of others.

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    If you support violent extremists that try to install a dictatorship you’re not a good person.

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      I do not support them no. If a kid steals a cookie is he a bad person or is he not thinking things through?

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          They often have the same cognitive ability for critical thinking. Although after this post I’m not so sure of either side

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            No, they don’t. All you seem to be doing is to say Republicans aren’t bad, but you aren’t showing us how that is.

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              Well if you look you will find some examples. Didn’t the republicans vote for the veterans care act to push through the use of psilocybin and mdma for treatment resistant veterans suffering from ptsd? I would imagine it would have been hard to go against the grain to make that decision and I’m sure there were a lot of republican voters who weren’t happy but it seems like the obvious right choice

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            Wait, if you’re a Republican and you’re admitting that Republican politicians don’t have critical thinking ability, then why are you still voting for having them run a country and affecting the livelihoods of millions (billions) of people?

            If the only Republican policies you’re supporting are benign ones (as a non-American, I don’t know which those are), are they worth all the ones that oppress and take away the rights of others?

            And if you’re a Republican but not a fan or voter of the Republican party as it stands, then maybe you need to reconsider what your definition of a Republican is, because Republicans themselves today are defining themselves in ever-bolder terms.

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      My Dad is a Republican, and over COVID commented on my post about BLM that “protestors wouldn’t be a problem if we just gunned them down.”

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    Everybody else is shooting you down here, But I’ll meet you in the middle with an even harder to swallow pill.

    There are Republicans who AREN’T BAD people, they are just ignorant. Not stupid, necessarily, but ignorant and uneducated. They might think they’re doing good but they are very very wrong.

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      Yes this is what I believe but im not right all the time either so I try to listen. Often it will just confirm what I thought to begin with but sometimes a see it a bit different

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      I worked with a guy that was a hard-core conservative, like just shy or real far-right talking points. Anyway he told me he doesn’t watch the news. Not that he only watches fox news, I mean he doesn’t watch any news at all. He gets his information from Facebook and tiktok

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    You taking about the elected officials, or the voters? You’ll have a much harder time finding politicians who are legitimately good people, let alone republicans.

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    “We’re good people, we just vote for politicians openly calling for violence and retribution upon all their political enemies and fellow Americans, and vote to make people different from us illegal, and vote to strip every safety net to pass directly to the 1%, and vote to protect our God given right to clear an elementary school in 20 minutes with an AR, etc etc etc”

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    Every “good person” I know of every political strip is horrifically cruel and violent towards intelligent creatures many times a day. Absolutely needlessly. And they deal with this by simply not thinking about it.

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      Do you think there are some that are trying to balance everything as best they can? As in if they had to chose to cut health or housing you’re going to be an asshole either way

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        Every single one of them are needlessly – absolutely needlessly and to their own great detriment – participating in atrocity against thinking, feeling creatures who once had the capacity to love them. There’s no question of balance. Everyone loses.

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          I agree I think they are on a poor trajectory. I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour. We’ve done that. It doesn’t seem to work. If anything they wear it as a badge of pride because they don’t believe a word of what we are saying. I can only see a solution of showing patience and compassion to those who have been misled and being resolute in calling out the bullshit from the people using them. If we can reach the ones who are good and have been misled more might wake up after them. There will be no possibility of a majority or power and their party will be forced to change or cease to exist. And you’re right everyone loses. Do you want everyone to lose or do you want to be the bigger person. It sucks but there’s no fire with fire. It’s a race to the bottom and we’re already on our way

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            I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour.

            You read that in.

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                  That was not my intention. I suppose after reading everyone’s comments that was the general vibe I was getting from most people. I apologise if that was not this individual comments intentions.

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    Yeah but they are stupid. Its the same in my country. People are simply sheep so they vote for the person who they see the most in ads and thats the guy who distroyed our economy and does racist and homophobic stuff…