Yeah I don’t get why anyone would want this. Just use Signal or something cross platform? It’s like complaining about not being able to message your friend’s Xbox from your PlayStation. Sure, it’d be nice, but I sure as hell wouldn’t provide a random third party with my PlayStation account credentials to achieve it!
I agree with you, but as always its not that simple.
For a lot of people all their friends use iMessage and refuse to use anything else because “it’s what I already use”. When you have a PlayStation and all your friends use Xbox, then being able to talk to them despite the security implications becomes quite an attractive feature.
Those kinds of apps took off in other places because SMS was expensive, but in the US there has been cheap and/or unlimited SMS for a couple of decades now. So people had no reason to use anything else. That means when iMessage came along and transparently covered up SMS it became the standard.
It is especially bad for teenagers where the iPhone has almost 90% market share. If you are a teen using Android with 9 friends, chances are literally all of them are on iMessage. Good luck trying to convince all 9 of them to install another app just for you. Apple’s indoctrination marketing is so powerful that kids are actually bullied for not having an iPhone.
Because most Apple users don’t even know what a phone actually is and don’t give a fuck about anything related to anything technical, apart from having the newest (same as always) device. Otherwise they wouldn’t be Apple users.
This is a really disingenuous argument even for /c/android. iOS has many pitfalls with the walled garden effect but it also has many advantages with regard to software quality, consistency and performance (particularly at an API level, speaking as a developer for both platforms). If we write them off as bad, dumb or irrelevant then we forego the opportunity to improve our own apps and Android as a platform. Google does not have a monopoly on good ideas nor on technical users - one could note that Android itself is developed on Macs, as Silicon Valley developer workstations are almost universally Apple hardware…
Yeah I don’t get why anyone would want this. Just use Signal or something cross platform? It’s like complaining about not being able to message your friend’s Xbox from your PlayStation. Sure, it’d be nice, but I sure as hell wouldn’t provide a random third party with my PlayStation account credentials to achieve it!
I agree with you, but as always its not that simple. For a lot of people all their friends use iMessage and refuse to use anything else because “it’s what I already use”. When you have a PlayStation and all your friends use Xbox, then being able to talk to them despite the security implications becomes quite an attractive feature.
In Europe, it’s very normal to use multiple chat apps (WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Threema, etc).
iMessage isn’t even that good a chat app! It’s really hard to understand this clearly social issue affecting North America from a non-NA perspective.
Those kinds of apps took off in other places because SMS was expensive, but in the US there has been cheap and/or unlimited SMS for a couple of decades now. So people had no reason to use anything else. That means when iMessage came along and transparently covered up SMS it became the standard.
It is especially bad for teenagers where the iPhone has almost 90% market share. If you are a teen using Android with 9 friends, chances are literally all of them are on iMessage. Good luck trying to convince all 9 of them to install another app just for you. Apple’s
indoctrinationmarketing is so powerful that kids are actually bullied for not having an iPhone.It’s specifically for the US market I reckon.
I’m European. My whole family (except me) uses iMessage and all my friends use iMessage or Facebook messenger. Its a problem here too.
Because most Apple users don’t even know what a phone actually is and don’t give a fuck about anything related to anything technical, apart from having the newest (same as always) device. Otherwise they wouldn’t be Apple users.
This is a really disingenuous argument even for /c/android. iOS has many pitfalls with the walled garden effect but it also has many advantages with regard to software quality, consistency and performance (particularly at an API level, speaking as a developer for both platforms). If we write them off as bad, dumb or irrelevant then we forego the opportunity to improve our own apps and Android as a platform. Google does not have a monopoly on good ideas nor on technical users - one could note that Android itself is developed on Macs, as Silicon Valley developer workstations are almost universally Apple hardware…