• serennow@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    However long Arsenal fans cry about it - they can’t escape the reality. This was a red but it was the less egregious and later of two such incidents. On balance Arsenal weren’t screwed over by the refs and still lost.

  • slinkymello@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Look, he didn’t use his arm as a weapon, so what complaint can anyone really have? Lol, I’m joking, but in my head I am imagining Bruno G severing his arm, putting some barbs on it, and proceeding to beat people with it

    • XxAbsurdumxX@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You mean the tackle that was actually carded and punished? We see borderline red tackles every game. Sometimes its a red, sometimes they aren’t, and sometimes they make a mistake. Havertz’ one wasn’t the only tackle that gameweek that could have been given a red but wasn’t. The point is that while I could understand a red being given, a yellow for it is not anywhere near as massive a blunder as not sending off a player for deliberately striking an opponent in the back of the head.

  • crispysnails@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Completed the title for you:

    Leaked VAR audio appears to reveal the reason Bruno Guimaraes was NOT sent off in Newcastle’s controversial win over Arsenal was due to VAR and professional referee Andrew Madley not knowing the rules.

    and that is me being generous…

  • Ballboy2015@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Hitting people from the back in any conext is totally illegal as far as I’m concerned. Especially when the first contact by the aggressor comes from some part of their body above the waist. In my experience I’ve had guys who were in a full sprint come up behind me while I was jogging in the box looking past the goal to where the ball is, and they throw up a forearm or elbow to decelerate themselves using my spine as a cushon. In these situations you get direct contusions from the initial blow, and sometimes whiplash and cervical injuries because you can’t see it coming. I think when any adult does this it is borderline assault, and should not be a part of the game at all.

  • simplytom_1@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    We still talking about this game smh

    (Bruno should have a got a red though no doubt about that)

  • tTaStYy@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    First person who speaks sets the narrative and everyone else just agrees. There’s no way that everyone in that replay booth believed it not to be red.

  • No-Video1797@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I was thinking this is meme VAR with actors, than realized its actually real leak. They sound as me and my co-worker commenting on a foul.

  • pashtedot@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    lol Arsenal had Xhaka with “bad reputation”. He never had that type of match. Never hit the guy in the head or went shoulder in the back. And he was sent off many many times.

  • HonMaguro@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    All these retrospective comments are useless, only make us more grieved.

    Start by giving post match punishments and make these more harsh than what they would get during the matches. Give Bruno 6 matches ban for this.

    • Coolguyliamf@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Lol, Bruno should be punished more heavily for a refereeing error than he would be if he got sent off in game.

      Havertz 6 games too?

    • sidvicc@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      was it carded during the game?

      If not there should be a retrospective red-card/ban for this. I didn’t watch the game but the longer footage (which shows him miss a sliding challenge and then go back in for the elbow) is damning…

  • YoungFormal1252@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Just a reminder that Tomiyasu got a yellow card for taking 8 seconds on a throw in and got a yellow for an Ayew dive which led to him being sent off against Crystal Palace

    Meanwhile Bruno received one yellow all game for elbowing Jorginho in the back of the head, pushing him in the back off the ball, choked Declan Rice and shoving Fabio Vieira in the face.

    Best league. Worst refs.

    • CaptZizoo@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Completely agree with the first two things about Bruno but choked Declan rice and shoving Fabio viera in the face is abit of a reach lol

    • serennow@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Just a reminder that Havertz launched himself studs up at shin height and 3 Newcastle players, including the 1 that alarmist had his career ended, got yellows for it. Officially, and unbiasedly, a much worse decision.

      Then later when multiple Arsenal players surrounded the ref, including 8 of them for the correctly seated goal, no yellows.

    • JoePoe247@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Just a reminder that arsenal got a yellow for knee high studs up flying tackle at full speed while Newcastle got triple the punishment for saying the ref was wrong.